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Ridazz are Changazz
Thread started by animal at 05.18.09 - 2:07 pm

So, seems like the MR image has been steadily sinking in the eyes of Los Angelinos. And there's been lots of talk of what to do. But, nothing's actually happening. I don't think. Is it? Here's another forum to discuss stuff to do that can hopefully be done. My ideas probably aren't that great, and I'm not the kind of person to lead a ride (yet..) but, maybe they'll inspire more creativity and hopefully some action.

A Clean up the Streets Ride -- pick up trash, litter, recycle!!, clean up parks?...

More Feed the Hungry Rides

A ride to pass out literature on what riding is about, the philosophies behind it, pros/cons, benefits of bicycle commuting.

A follow the rules of the road ride? hah....

The Sober Ride.

Volunteer Ride -- go around, volunteer @ charitable orgs. maybe animal shelters?

In essence, create some rides that not only are fun, but promote a positive image and are at least somewhat productive.
It may help to build some clout for getting what we want in the city.
I don't know... it's just frustrating that we all want change, but not enough of us are doing anything.
Thanks to those that are doing something! Enlist our help! Please!

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"So, seems like the MR image has been steadily sinking in the eyes of Los Angelinos.

Says who?



Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 2:09 pm

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those are great ideas..

MAKE IT HAPPEN™





richtotheie
05.18.09 - 2:14 pm

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Tell me something new, meh...



TIMESARECHANGING
05.18.09 - 2:15 pm

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"So, seems like the MR image has been steadily sinking in the eyes of Los Angelinos.

Says who?



Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 5:09 pm


animal



sexy
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 2:24 pm

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The brain is a powerful thing. Change your mind. You'll be surprised what can happen.



Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 2:32 pm

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this is the billionth thread abouy making chage

after the crank mob task force i gave up expecting anyone to take charge
i just need some free time to plan something but if you want chage

go for it bro, plan a ride lead.
we will support ya, fa sho!





aksendz
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 2:38 pm

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I think Ridazz are pretty cool. We just need a few key assassinations and our peaceful hippy culture will be perfect.



tortuga_veloce
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 2:39 pm

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I'm assuming the pooch is first to go?



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by tortuga_veloce
05.18.09 - 2:41 pm

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So what if we've heard this before. It's never too late to put more effort in.

Here is a list of places we can volunteer (I got it from school):
http://calendar.smcags.org/calendar.php?mode=cal








Coe coe buttaa
05.18.09 - 2:55 pm

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There is just too much self servant talk.

what happened to midnight gardners
and i rely hope leslie tackles the idaho stop law thing

but more actions than words

best thing I seen was the latest storm the bastille,
date was mentioned and people came.
that was the jist of it.

but animal, i'll help you plan if you're done, but it can't be done on the boards. it gets way to crazy



aksendz
05.18.09 - 3:01 pm

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enough changes were MADE that the Task force never had to come about. It only takes a little from everyone... We're changing... RIGHT NOW. And it will keep going this way!!! YAHA YAH YAH

MORE COOL RIDES! MORE PRODUCTIVE RIDES! MOAR FUN!!!



richtotheie
05.18.09 - 3:06 pm

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in that case that is awesome to hear
but then I do hear tales of people being crazy on cmob



aksendz
05.18.09 - 3:08 pm

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Hell yah animal! I'm totally down for this!!!

Also there's a buncha homeless shelters that need volunteers on Sunday morning. In addition there's lots of elementary schools that look for people to read to kids on weekend mornings! Not to mention that this would be a great platform to hand out info and promote safe riding and build a relationship between riders and motorists!

Lez due it!






Gizzard
05.18.09 - 3:10 pm

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what happened to midnight gardners

I'm making it happen(tm) all by myself. You want to join me? Start by going to the google group I started. I'm currently working on building mobile garden bins (AgBins) that can be stored in parking spaces or aparment balconies. I'm also growing radishes, onions, shallots, garlic, nasturhums and arugula for consumption and seed. Want some seeds? Join the fucking google group!



tortuga_veloce
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05.18.09 - 3:25 pm

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YOU CAN DO IT, MAKE IT HAPPEN MAKE IT HAPPEN MAKE IT HAPPEN. NO MORE POSTING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT MAKING TALKING MAKING TALKING HAPPENING TYPING POSTING TALKING POST POST POST POST. MAKE IT HAPPEN MAKE IT HAPPEN MAKE IT HAPPEN. MAKE THE RIDES, MAKE THE EVENTS POST TIMES AND NUMBER AND DAYS AND SCHEDULES, LESS LETTERS, MORE NUMBERS AND FACES AND ACTION AND POTENTIAL, AND MUSCLE ACTIVITY



meow
responding to a comment by richtotheie
05.18.09 - 3:26 pm

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would you like some seeds?



tortuga_veloce
responding to a comment by meow
05.18.09 - 3:31 pm

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gardening for me is spiritual.
i'll do it bymyself
i'm tlaking to landlady to get a graden on the roof



aksendz
responding to a comment by tortuga_veloce
05.18.09 - 3:50 pm

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god seeds?



tortuga_veloce
responding to a comment by aksendz
05.18.09 - 3:52 pm

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how about instead of trying to do more positive things to change peoples views on the ridazz we start by stopping all the negative shit that we do on the rides.how about that for a change



mandingo
05.18.09 - 3:56 pm

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Seems like the only ride that was obtaining a negative image was CRANK MOB. Richtotheie has done ALOT to fix this ride from a falling drunken mess to a fully F.U.N.N.R. ride again and this months ride was a total success. Other than that in my mind MR has been going up up up. These ridazz trips are getting amazing and frequent, its fucking great! Salton Sea, Austin, San Diego, Portland, and possibly another to New York? Thats almost a trip a month, lets keep it up all through summer. Makes me want to go buy a 15 passenger van so we can do more trips with more people. Marcus, i applaud you.



larsenf
05.18.09 - 4:07 pm

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Yeah, to us everything is fantastic. Life on a bicycle couldn't be better. BUT, it's those who aren't inside this little bubble of MR that aren't seeing the pretty colors. For those who want any kind of change in the city for cyclists, i.e. getting "paint on the street", changing outdated laws, gaining more rights, and preserving the ones we already have, there has to be something to show voters, politicians, drivers, other cyclists who hate us, that every ride isn't a drunken party -- and i'm not saying that they all are! i just get the feeling this is what a lot of the unenlightened are assuming. dig? unless of course, this is what the majority of MRs wants the public to see...



animal
05.18.09 - 4:23 pm

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Unfortunately, animal does have a point... though, there will always be people that don't like these rides.... it sounds like C.R.A.N.K. MOB really cleaned itself up on this last ride.


Still, even so I got this letter from a resident in Venice about the ride....




"I live in Venice. I love bikes.

I have grown to hate the very very loud idiots that wake up my neighborhood. Especially after the ride is over - sceaming as you ride to your home at 1:30 am.

The idea is sound but the meanspirited, profanity laced screaming is causing major blowback."

-venice resident (name withheld)








Roadblock
responding to a comment by animal
05.18.09 - 4:30 pm

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+1 mandingo.

in my opinion, ridazz have always done and will continue to do positive things. riding a bike being one of them. volunteering at the co-opz being another. showing up to city council meetings being another. aids cycle being another. passing out burritos being another. helping change the tube of a wheelchair LA marathon rida, and the many many many countless things that i hear about and read about from ridazz when they are on their bike or not.

the street cred is there.

but it takes one drunk idiot unnecessarily corking an intersection, cussing out a car, stealing beer, or throwing their shit all over the place to kill that positive image in a second.



sciencefriction
responding to a comment by mandingo
05.18.09 - 4:30 pm

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Huh?





Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by animal
05.18.09 - 4:32 pm

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its 1:30am on a Saturday fucking night. people are going to drink regardless, id rather have them screaming on a bike than driving.



larsenf
responding to a comment by Roadblock
05.18.09 - 4:50 pm

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+4



richtotheie
responding to a comment by larsenf
05.18.09 - 4:51 pm

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from dude's perspective it's not an either or situation.... he just wants to get some sleep I guess.



Roadblock
responding to a comment by richtotheie
05.18.09 - 4:54 pm

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Shift your consideration to others outside of your rides for a little bit, and then others will consider you. This goes for everybody that wants to see some things different. Are you one of them or, are you content with the way things are?



animal
responding to a comment by larsenf
05.18.09 - 5:08 pm

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YOU'RE GIVING CYCLISTS A BAD NAME!!!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by mandingo
05.18.09 - 5:13 pm

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replying to tortuga veloce

god seed = man?



aksendz
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
05.18.09 - 6:44 pm

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interesting letter. i live in Venice. i live near two bars and the people leaving these bars are wayyyy loud - ridiculous! i have roughly a block and around the corner.

i also live near the beach - imagine what it is like during the summer. we choose where we live. we have to expect the loud. i am trying to think - it must happen every so often which is wayyyy less than drunk stumbling people coming out of bars - that happens every night.

if the worst we have in complaints is that we're loud while we ride by for five minutes - phew! c'est la vie!

who is going to tell people to be quiet on rides. now - cleaning up trash and not stealing and yada, yada - that i can stand behind. that i would help with.

the silent ride.. hmm..



bondink
responding to a comment by Roadblock
05.18.09 - 6:48 pm

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also - there are so many ridazz that i have met who have joined C.R.A.N.K. MOB and looked on midnightridazz.com because of the loudness in the rides.

they leave their homes, come down to the street and ask what it's all about - the next month they're happily a part of the growing numbers of people not driving cars, but riding their bikes.





bondink
05.18.09 - 6:53 pm

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I'd love to be involved in the guerrilla gardening, but i just can't join another google group. I'm putting a tourniquet on the inflow of information via my email in-box. Personal emails, OK. I know you, I see you fairly often...let's just chat in person, or email me, sorry, but I've reached my google/internet-group limit for the time being.



kryxtanicole
responding to a comment by tortuga_veloce
05.18.09 - 7:00 pm

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Wise words, animal. There's a lot of "me first" in our society, but I like to think that a measure of maturity is the ability to see things from another person's perspective.

The main time that I think about the noise is when we are stopped, especially if it's late. I think that avoiding residential areas as stopping points is key. I know that if I wasn't out on a ride I'd probably be trying to sleep by midnight on weekends and earlier during the workweek. So spare a thought for someone who might be needing to sleep for whatever reason.

That said, I've been on many rides where folks came out to the street to see the parade and cheer us on.



mr rollers
responding to a comment by animal
05.18.09 - 7:07 pm

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i agree with you on the noise at the stops - absolutely. but when we're rolling through.. it's can be difficult.



bondink
responding to a comment by mr rollers
05.18.09 - 7:20 pm

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Agreed - there's no way several hundred ridazz are gonna keep it quiet when they're riding. It's not what we're about, and honestly I don't think too many people object to that. It's part of the spectacle and it moves on.

But very few people want it outside their bedroom window for a hour at 2am.



mr rollers
responding to a comment by bondink
05.18.09 - 7:27 pm

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Solution.

More valley rides.



rayrayray
05.18.09 - 8:51 pm

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agreed.



animal
responding to a comment by rayrayray
05.18.09 - 10:08 pm

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second ^



aksendz
responding to a comment by animal
05.18.09 - 10:58 pm

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What are you getting at now?





bentstrider
responding to a comment by tortuga_veloce
05.19.09 - 3:54 am

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I think more variation in routes would help with the noise.





ephemerae
05.19.09 - 8:37 am

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