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bicigol at 09.19.06 - 12:36 pm
i opted last night to ride the bus home from work instead of riding.
i didn't get very far.
when my bus was waiting on santa monica to cross wilshire a cyclist tried to run a red. he didn't make it.
in short.....suv vs bike
hit and run
possible fatality.........considering he was not moving at all and there was a puddle of blood coming from the riders head. both wrists appeared to be broken. the rider didn't move at all after the crash.
witnesses didn't seem to know who was at fault, the driver or the rider. either way its a risky intersection to try and make a light either by motor vehicle or bike.
but it was a hit and run
i don't know what i'm saying here, other than be safe on those big streets. i ride throught that intersection most days. i have to ride through it tonight to get home. i know i'm going to be riding over that very spot where the rider lay. i'll be thinking about him.
so watch the roads.
i'm pissed that the driver took off. even it wasn't the driver's fault, they shouldn't have taken off like that...........maybe it was his fault and that's why he took off. anyway...........that driver is at large.
i can't do much about it
maybe together we can
there's a big fountain at that intersection. perhaps we can ride to the fountain to show some numbers. let people know we're out there. maybe the beverly hills p.d. might show. maybe some coverage. maybe some driver sitting at home might see that we know he's at large.
keep riding
keep safe
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That sucks.......I'm down to show support....
panic09.19.06 - 12:45 pm
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I say everyone shows up. Which day were you thinking we all meet?
Mr. Raymond09.19.06 - 12:46 pm
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Yeah,, Let's do this..
panic09.19.06 - 12:59 pm
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let's make it a day this week. tomorrow? wednesday? what time were you there when this happened? if someone were to make signs about the hit and run people habitually drive the same routes everyday. maybe someone will have some info if people are there with signs at approximately the same time frame. I'm commuting to west la tomorrow... I'll see you guys there. lets find out who it was that got hit too...
Too Tall Jahmal09.19.06 - 1:13 pm
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i have no idea who the rider was
i was there around 720/730pm
if anybody wants to do this, i'm cool with it. its easy for me since the fountain at santa monica/wilshire is along my ride home
bicigol09.19.06 - 1:52 pm
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oh, and i work the rest of the week (till fri) so I'll be riding anyway
bicigol09.19.06 - 2:17 pm
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If any decisions are made about the time of meeting, post them on this thread.. I'll come through to show my support...
panic09.19.06 - 2:53 pm
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say we meet there at 6 or 6:30.... we should find out more about the accident. how do we do that?
Roadblock09.19.06 - 2:55 pm
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Good question>> I'd think there would have to be access to traffic accident reports... I really don't know though..
panic09.19.06 - 3:00 pm
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i have to ride by the BHPD on the way home. I can give it go and simply ask them for any info. Maybe even give notice that people might be showing up. But i'll hold back on the notification if by 645 (when I leave work) there isn't a time and date set yet.
i may walk out with no info, but its a try
bicigol09.19.06 - 4:19 pm
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just saw on the 5:30 news unfortunately the bicyclist did die. someone has come forward to the police - they're not sure if it's the driver from the hit and run. What sad news.
arturo bandini09.19.06 - 5:31 pm
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i think it'd be nice to have the riders at the next meetup (pajama party) light candles and have a moment of silence for our fallen trooper.
easy rida09.19.06 - 8:12 pm
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I just posted a link to the article. I didn't see this post until after. The next Ridazz really should do something for the poor guy. I'm down to ride out to SaMo and Wilshire any night this week. We've got to show that we care about our own.
DuckLionDog09.19.06 - 9:19 pm
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so fucking sad. I hope this dude catches some serious time. fucking punk.... I'm still down to show up at the fountain just outta respect.
Suspected Hit-And-Run Driver Turns Himself In
(CBS) BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. A 39-year-old Los Angeles man turned himself in to Beverly Hills police Tuesday evening in connection with a hit-and-run collision that killed a 23-year-old bicyclist, police said.
Peter Kim surrendered around 5 p.m., about an hour after his attorney contacted Beverly Hills police, Beverly Hills police Sgt. Michael Publicker said.
Kim was booked for suspicion of vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence and being held in lieu of $50,000 bail, Publicker said.
As of 6:30 p.m., Kim had not posted bail, Publicker said.
Witnesses told police that "a large dark-colored American sport utility vehicle" struck Ilia Pankin of Los Angeles about 7:30 last night at Santa Monica and Wilshire boulevards, Publicker said.
The vehicle sped off westbound on Wilshire Boulevard and has not been located, Publicker said.
Pankin died at UCLA Medical Center, Publicker said.
Anyone with information about the SUV was asked to call Beverly Hills police at (310) 550-4951.
Roadblock09.19.06 - 10:56 pm
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This totally sucks.....May he Rest In Peace...
panic09.20.06 - 6:31 am
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a small group of Ridazz is going to hold a candlelight vigil tonight at the fountain on the corner of Santa Monica and Wilshire. 7:30pm-8:30pm then memorial ride from there to undetermined destination.... see you there.
Roadblock09.20.06 - 9:38 am
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I'll be there. If anyone wants to roll with me I'm going to leave Silver Lake (SilverSun Plaza at Parkman and Sunset) around 6:30 p.m. via
this route.
Agent Orange09.20.06 - 10:19 am
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i'll ride over after work for that.
bicigol09.20.06 - 10:22 am
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I can meet up. I got a crew coming from glendale so we will try to coordinate with you... what time you think you'll hit fountain and vermont?
Roadblock09.20.06 - 10:23 am
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i have the BHPD traffic division #
should a call be made to give a heads up?
bicigol09.20.06 - 10:35 am
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good question.......... how do you think they will react? we should also hit up local media. kcal, cbs2, abc, fox(ugh)
actually my boy is a producer at abc... I'm gonna give him a holler.
Roadblock09.20.06 - 10:44 am
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i just called and spoke with officer butkus of BHPD
its all good, we can meet up at the fountain. if we have a crowd we can spill over into the park area that is along santa monica
his only concern was keeping people off the street, to which i responded that we would only be on the street when riding to and from the vigil
i didn't have a head count for him but let him know i would contact him if the # seemed to be getting large
its cool, we have a green light, they don't mind a vigil, just be cool with all those who are trying to get home at that time
bicigol09.20.06 - 11:18 am
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Fuck.
Count me in.
We should definitely do something for Ilia Friday on the PJ ride.
Ideas?
I could change my route to end and the vigil we will set up tonight....
What do you guys think.
Definitely a moment of silence before we ride out.
What's the story with the press?
I think we should definitely get them involved.
anonymitytheif09.20.06 - 11:48 am
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I posted it on Blogging.la put it up on the calendar pages at cicle.org and bikeboom.com. Then I sent the info to the tip lines at ABC, CBS and NBC.
Roadblock, if you're question about our ETA to Fountain and Vermont was aimed in my direction, I'd guess we'd be there only a few minutes after our scheduled 6:30 departure from Sunset and Parkman.
Agent Orange09.20.06 - 1:14 pm
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"when my bus was waiting on santa monica to cross wilshire a cyclist tried to run a red. he didn't make it."
Bicigol, If you are certain Pankin ran the red then I think you need to give a statement to the BH cops. Yeah, it's completely wrong for Kim to hit-and-run and he'll no doubt pay for that one way or another.
My concern is that Kim may pay for something that he didn't do. I don't think that's fair.
Sea Green Sky09.20.06 - 3:32 pm
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hello, we are trying to organize a ride for this friday night - this is being organized by the people at the shop Ilia worked at and the people who knew him and messengered with him...i posted this in another thread as well - hope everyone can make it this friday night:
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There is a memorial ride for the Honor of Ilia Pankin going down this friday night the 22nd.
We will be meeting @ the intersection where Ilia went down @ Santa Monica & Wilshire in Beverly Hills @ 9pm this friday night
From there we will be finishing his ride home to west hollywood then to a nearby park(not determined yet - stay tuned for exact location)
there is also a group of people meeting @ the Performance Bike shop (where Ilia worked) @ 8pm - Corner of 5th and Broadway in Santa Monica: 501 Broadway, Santa Monica,90401. we will leave that spot around 8:30pm to meet up with the group @ the intersection @ 9pm
there is also a meeting earlier downtown LA that will be making the journey as well - stay tuned, i will post as i organize more details regarding this meeting time and place...
the memorial ride is welcome to anyone on a bike that would like to come, please pass this around - i will have an official flyer to email later on today
thank you to everyone for thier support
you can email me @ info@2020-marketing or call me @ 714.357.8020 for more info
-Dave
sidenote: i worked with Ilia @ Performance Bikes and am trying to organize this ride / meeting - any help would greatly be appreciated
thank you
dg
09.20.06 - 6:31 pm
dg09.20.06 - 3:40 pm
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You know that the Pajama Party Ridazz will be by to show their support!
anonymitytheif09.20.06 - 4:36 pm
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about what time do you think you guys will be rolling through? should we wait for your group to continue our ride to west hollywood so we can all meet / ride together?
dg09.20.06 - 4:42 pm
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Regardless of whether the guy was at fault or not, he bailed from the scene and in my mind that makes him responsible for a crime and deserves to be punished. Had it been on a lonely highway he would have gotten away with manslaughter. but since Peter Kim was at a busy intersection and the accident was covered on TV I'm assuming he felt pressured to turn himself in. Anyone who bails like that from a crash scene is uncaring and a coward. sorry. this prolly looks harsh the way I wrote it, but I get steamed up about this shit. same shit happend to Skull last year and the driver was never found. thankfull that She got away with a broken ankle instead of death.
I guess in the eyes of the law there would be some easement to his sentence if it wasnt his fault and that's how it works. but fuck that. that still some coldblooded shit.
see you guys tonight AND friday.
Roadblock09.20.06 - 5:12 pm
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as far as who was at fault..........the bus i was on had a camera facing the street. the driver stopped and waited around to submit that footage to the police. that will determine who ran what and where fault may lie.
see you all later on tonight
bicigol09.20.06 - 5:52 pm
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We won't be riding through till later.
We are meeting at Barnsdall at 9:30 and will head out at 10. I was going to make a mid ride stop at the vigil but that will put us there much later....
way to long for you guys to wait.
anonymitytheif09.20.06 - 6:26 pm
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It would be totally cool to find a way to meet up....
What do you guys think?
anonymitytheif09.20.06 - 6:34 pm
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sounds good, maybe we can loop back to the fountain at a later time that night, could we meet with your ride at a rough time there at the fountain?
maybe like someone else had commented maybe we can snowball these rides together - i would like to work this out if at all possible. there has been mention of some local media stopping by - it would be great to get all these bikes out that night together
thank you -everyone - very much for your support
dg09.20.06 - 6:41 pm
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OK.
So I'm looking at my route and here's the best that I can come up with...
I'm starting the Route at Barnsdall which is on the opposite end of Hollywood. I have no idea how many ridazz are going to show up, which will be crucial in determining how fast the group will be travelling.
I think that we can be at Fairfax High (Melrose and Fairfax) around 11pm. That would be my mid ride stop and would be a great rendezvous point for the various rides. From there we could all cruise down melrose to Santa Monica and end at the Fountain.
Then we could be there till midnight and get the press and cops hip to this....
What do you guys think?
anonymitytheif09.20.06 - 7:15 pm
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nice turnout tonight guys... crazy how Ilia's mom showed up. and so did ABC and KCAL. they posed us. it was kind of funny. look for it. lol. They asked his mom at one point a question referring to all of us as the guy's friends... but she didnt recognize any of us cause none of us knew him. We just all felt moved by the story of how this guys died and we gave him support. His mom appreaciated it.
maybe we don't even need to snow ball.... can you guys map out the route that Ilia would have taken and what park it will end at. we can meet up with you guys at the park or something and follow the same route you guys go down.
Roadblock09.20.06 - 10:22 pm
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theif,
first of all thanks to everybody who came out tonight...
sounds great - here is the loop we had planned on riding, mostly because this is the route ilia took a few days a week:
we had planned to meet at the fountain @ santa monica & wilshire in beverly hills @ 9pm - gather everybody - raise our bikes up over our heads and observe a moment for ilia - head down santa monica towards hollywood until La Brea - left on La Brea passed hollywood to right on Yucca - left on El Cerrito Pl - ilia lived on the left (almost corner) of Yucca and El Cerrito Pl - right on Franklin - right on Highland - right on Hollywood - left on La Brea - down La Brea to Melrose - right on Melrose and we can meet your ride @ Melrose & Fairfax around 11pm @ Fairfax High - we could all like you said: continue down Melrose to santa monica and then stop at the fountain and gather until midnight.
that work out ok for everybody?
thanks again for coming out tonight and for everyone planning to be there friday night
here is a link to the flyer going around regarding the memorial ride:
http://www.2020-marketing.com/ilia/ilia.pdf
also, thankyou to who ever tipped off the media for tonight, we hope the media can come out again for friday nights meeting - please feel free to spread this around...big thanks to the Ridazz for helping make this more public - thanks!
dg09.21.06 - 1:17 am
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theif,
does this revised route work for everybody?
times and directions look ok?
i greatly appreciate you guys making the change in your route so we can all link up
can we plan for this as described in a few posts earlier?
(still cool to meet your ride for sure @ 11pm ish @ fairfax & melrose?)
best
dg
dg09.21.06 - 12:06 pm
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yes very cool last night... this is the type of thing that makes this website worth while. Bicigol good to meet you. thanks for posting this and helping to mobilize people to go to the fountain. the more we all show support when cycle accidents happen the more people wlll become aware of cyclists on the road... which mean hopefully less accidents.
I gotta say this though. West LA has the rudest most ignorant drivers of all the areas of LA ....
Roadblock09.21.06 - 12:30 pm
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I am really glad to hear about last night.
Unfortunately I took a spill jamming down a hill on Sunset that sent me to the ER. I'm ok, nothing broked but an ego, my glasses, and one of my cranks. I'm pretty black and blue though.
So I can't go on the ride tomorrow. What I can do, is help out until then.
I have a group off line that is helping me organize it, and I've sent them emails asking for one of them to step up and fill my shoes. The planning is done, so it's just making sure that it's followed through at this point.
Depending on what I hear back, I will post here, and change my calendar slot.
Maybe I'll just post the route and have it DIY - whoever can start at Barnsdall, then meet at Fairfax at 11 and cruise over to the fountain.
I will be in touch.
anonymitytheif09.21.06 - 1:25 pm
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Damn Theif.... Hope you get better soon. So sorry to hear about your accident. If your planning team is not available for this ride another option might be to postpone the pajama party theme until you are better Maybe for the 6th of october if you feel well enough at that point?
Roadblock09.21.06 - 1:55 pm
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Thank you roadblock!
What is it, when someone says Midnight Ridazz, you say ride on!
PJ party will go on. I have an amazing group of guys and gals who are going to fill my shoes. They are hip to the ride and will be at the Fairfax High meeting spot at 11pm for the mass ride to the fountain.
I think it's going to be awesome and hope you guys take and post lots of pictures so I know what I am missing!
anonymitytheif09.21.06 - 2:37 pm
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it's always surreal attending these type of things and i remained speechless throughout the entire event. i said a few words of condolences to his mom and that was all i could muster.
sorry i didn't work the courage to talk to any of the other riders especially will who i've been meaning to say hi to through blogging.la.
anyway, i was the guy with the red bandana in case you ever see me say hey.
easy rida09.21.06 - 9:19 pm
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Hey Easy, don't fret man. Your presence was what mattered. You came and stood and that's all that needed to be said. I'll keep an eye out for you and your red bandana on future rides and I'll be sure to say hey.
Agent Orange09.21.06 - 10:23 pm
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thanks man, i'm new to the area so i pretty much roll solo to all the rides. it's always good to see someone you at least recognize.
easy rida09.21.06 - 10:38 pm
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AGENT ORANJ you want your new identity? or stick with the real name... your choice just offering the anonymity if ya want it.
Roadblock09.21.06 - 10:51 pm
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Roadblock: Heck yeah! Hook me up with my new cover man: Agent Orange!
Agent Orange09.22.06 - 9:34 am
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Yeah... Agent orange...
panic09.22.06 - 2:44 pm
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I wish everywell and safe journey's tonight. I am unable to attend becuase i also was hit by a car a few weeks ago, and thankfully I am o.k., but my beloved bike is toast. I just wanted to say how sad I am for his family and friends and that theres seems to be an uptick in vechicular accidents just in the past month. I recently met my new neighbor and found out he was hit by a car on his bike crossing La Brea on Fountain and now his entire left leg is in a cast and he has 50,000 worth of medical bills. There was also a bad accident in West Hollywood last week involving a female cyclist. What the fuck is going on?? THis seems to be the time to approach the city, hold a news conference. SOMETHING.
toph09.22.06 - 7:56 pm
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the fountain was HOOKED UP. Lots of candles, Ilia's friends the mom the cops.... lots of Ridazz lots of cycles. The ghost bike was beautiful...... Really amazing turn out.....
Roadblock09.23.06 - 2:12 am
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I agree Roadblock. My friend and I were traipsing around west of the fountain on wilshire and when we came back through around 1:30 am. Tthe image was stunning, moving, so powerful. There was no one around just the fountain, candles and ghost bike. This is only my 3rd ride with the ridazz, I don't know any of you and yet I somehow feel like I found my home, especially with the outpouring this week. Ride on.
Jason
jake09.23.06 - 8:36 am
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That's assuming the cameras were actually working at the time of the accident and the hard drives can be downloaded from the bus.
Very often, the camera systems fail on these buses due to the extraordinary pounding they receive from L.A.'s incredibly terrible street conditions. The cameras will work for a couple of months at best before failure and then are not repaired or replaced very quickly. Hopefully, useful images will be available but don't count on it.
Changeling09.27.06 - 10:20 am
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Roadblock, sorry i couldnt stay at the vigil longer(i was there 6 minutes), sounds like yall had some times, and i heard the display up there is something spectacular.
but hey, about what you sai about westside autos being the rudest...you're right. sometimes its a straight battle. i think it makes us wesside ridazz hardcore though, plus santa monica isnt that bad
BYQ09.27.06 - 10:10 pm
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i would say koreatown is a pretty place to be riding too. I swear, every korean girl there is talking on their cell phones.
superfish09.27.06 - 11:18 pm
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