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SFV CRITICAL MASS.....?
Thread started by shotgun_mike at 10.4.10 - 6:00 pm

Are they riding the first tuesday of every month? I tried to contact the girl who posted the last one and got no answer.....are well all just supposed to show up ? I know the last one was at Woodley orange line at Victory, but i forgot what time it started......thx

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yeah, sarah doesnt really go to it anymore :P she just posts it up so people show up... it is critical mass so there is no leader



666
10.5.10 - 12:26 am

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That ride got weak its not for me.But if you post it they will come meet time 7:30 leave time 8:00 Sarah hasn't done the ride in over a year now



crossbones
10.5.10 - 12:34 am

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If your looking for a tuesday night ride then TUESDAY NIGHT SPECIAL is the ride for you.TNS used to give first tuesday night to SFVCM until it got weak now its TNS every tuesday night



crossbones
10.5.10 - 12:39 am

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I might join up with this ride if my normal Tuesday ride pussies out.



Joe Borfo
10.5.10 - 12:52 am

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which ride Joe,,,,,,? critical mass or tuesday special.....im with you on this one.




shotgun_mike
10.5.10 - 12:58 am

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None of those.
It's one of his special rides that's been going on for some time now, yet has remained below radar rather effectively.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by shotgun_mike
10.5.10 - 1:22 am

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there were like 3 people there (including myself). Well actually I left at 8:30 p cause I had grocery in my bag, so I don't know if peeps showed up or not after then.



^olsko*jr7
10.5.10 - 10:18 pm

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had to drive to san luis obispo (family sickness)......anyhow, i think that the problem is that the ride wasnt posted on upcoming rides.....i woulda posted it but i dont know too much about critical mass.........



shotgun_mike
10.5.10 - 10:28 pm

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Lets do SFV critical mass on the last friday of the month, like the LA one. An alternative to going to the police sponsored one. I think a main problem of the last one, was that it wasnt posted up on upcoming rides. Any thoughts?



shotgun_mike
10.13.10 - 5:48 pm

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post it and they will come



666
responding to a comment by shotgun_mike
10.13.10 - 5:50 pm

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is now on the last friday of every month........meet at reseda and oxnard orange lline station.......east parkinglot.......meet 730.......roll 830.........no leaders



shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 4:58 am

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A new start day is one thing but a new start location is another thing leave the location alone there noting wrong with woodley and victory



crossbones
10.14.10 - 5:57 am

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ruh roh! Old mister grumpy doesn't like to see changes happening on his turf!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by crossbones
10.14.10 - 7:30 am

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Why make the NoHo people go farther it is SFVCM right.Not SFWVCM (west valley) changes I like but we only need one CM in the valley



crossbones
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
10.14.10 - 8:11 am

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yeah i agree, keep the start location the same.



666
responding to a comment by crossbones
10.14.10 - 9:17 am

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SFV critical mass shouldn't change or move, it should still stay on the first tuesday of the month, its been like that and should stay like that. Only cus no one posted it last month we shouldn't have to change it.



Rikk33
10.14.10 - 11:28 am

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If anything ill remind sara to posted.



Rikk33
10.14.10 - 11:29 am

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Seriously, if you guys are too dependent to figure this one out, you shouldn't be attending any ride called "critical mass". It's a movement, not an individual effort.

I posted a ride I didn't even attend for nearly two years, and now that I rarely even come on this site, it's just a plain hassle to keep remembering to visit every month to post CM.

&&I never got an email from Mike. I've responded to dozens of new ridazz desperately expecting me to always be at my computer in the 30 minutes before CM starts just because I posted it, that responsibility is one of the reason I've gotten tired of being the one to always post the ride.



danya
10.14.10 - 11:58 am

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All im saying is that it should be moved.



Rikk33
responding to a comment by danya
10.14.10 - 12:24 pm

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Im just looking for suggestions......i think the first tuesday of the month sux....why....because noone goes to that one ...(three people last time).....im not dead set about doing reseda orange line either.........how about sepulveda........? Van Nuys station?? Somthing in between NOHO and central valley.....?
I do think doing it on the last friday of the month is better...........i posted it up already for the 29th. Basically as an alternative for people who dont want to go to LA critical mass. well........?



shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 12:24 pm

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*shouldn't



Rikk33
10.14.10 - 12:25 pm

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SFVCM. Oh, that thing?



^olsko*jr7
10.14.10 - 12:45 pm

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I don't think competing with LACM is worthwhile. I would just go to LACM if I had to choose. I like having it on a different day because that lets people do both if they want (and I know I'm not the only one).

The problem with the Orange Line is it can only support 3 bikes at a time, unlike the trains that can take dozens.

You can't have a BIG ride in the Valley and say "it's Metro friendly, just off the Orange Line!" because Orange Line sucks for cyclists, even when your bike isn't getting jacked off the rack.

Yeah there's a bike path too, but for amateur / newbie riders to get to the start without taking the bus, that's a bunch more miles they have to ride.



outerspace
10.14.10 - 1:53 pm

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This all stems from this idea that Trickmilla had about LACM -

"I think it would be much more fun and productive to have 5-10 rides of 100-300 people crisscrossing the city, smaller groups are more accountable to each other, and people act more like individuals than a mob."

Perhaps an All City version of Critical Mass could work out for this new year's eve?



Joe Borfo
10.14.10 - 3:12 pm

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Ok, im not tryin to step on anyones toes.........
yes, i agree with Darth Borfo......better to have 10 rides with 2-300 people on them.
So, my compromise is.......i will change the meet point to NOHO station.....but lets have it on the last friday of the month......we are not competing with LA critical mass.......we are making it more LA city wide.......
IDK....suggestions again.......



shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 3:48 pm

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It should stay at the same day & place, there's already to many rides that start in noho. I remember when mass was just a few people I remember when one time there was just like 10 of us. It shouldn't matter how many people come out to critical mass. If they really want to come out and ride they will.



Rikk33
10.14.10 - 3:57 pm

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just name the ride something else. start it wherever and whenever you want. here's a good name for a ride: Dirty Diesel Friday



666
10.14.10 - 4:06 pm

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Hahaha I like it.... im down we can go hit up candy cat. dirty diesel style!!! make it rain!!



Rikk33
10.14.10 - 4:17 pm

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Touche.



outerspace
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
10.14.10 - 4:17 pm

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Im over it............will take down the SFV critcal mass ride for the 29th......you guys can do with it what you want......cheers !!

talk to hand Pictures, Images and Photos



shotgun_mike
responding to a comment by Rikk33
10.14.10 - 4:18 pm

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I like that.... Darth Borfo.... hmmm.



Joe Borfo
10.14.10 - 4:20 pm

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just name it something else dude... like you said, you wanted an LACM alternative. people that dont want to do LACM will still show up, hell i might even show up :P but only if you name it Dirty Diesel Fridays



666
responding to a comment by shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 4:40 pm

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no worries.........i just wanted suggestions on SFVCM.....if you check the ride schedule, you will see a bunch of other SO cal critical masses are going to be on the 29th. I figured it might be better to have it on the friday also as an alternative to the LA one....no biggie. thanks for the input though.........peace ......



shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 5:15 pm

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regardless of the day, Critical Mass is really supposed to happen at rush hour. meeting at 7:30, riding at 8 is completely after rush hour - I think the ride should meet earlier.

ideally meet 6:30, ride at 7, or at the very latest 7:00 ride at 7:30



Ayla
10.14.10 - 5:24 pm

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That is the traditional start time, yes. Last Fridays are tradition too. However every city has adapted ways that work for each other.

The nature of CM should be adaptable. Just remember that.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Ayla
10.14.10 - 5:29 pm

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shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 5:39 pm

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oy vey!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by shotgun_mike
10.14.10 - 5:40 pm

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Even 6:30 is pretty late. Traditionally defined "rush hour" lasts from 4p to 6p. Even if you gave that an extra hour you are starting the ride at the end of rush hour. If you want to get into the mix with traffic then you want to start even earlier. Like meet 4:30 ride 5.

You also run into the problem that ridazz need time to get to the ride after they themselves get off work. Tough to balance. By the time most people get from work to CM start who want to get to the ride, rush hour is already over by definition.



outerspace
responding to a comment by Ayla
10.14.10 - 6:10 pm

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ALL CITY CRITICAL MASS!!

Now THAT'S an idea...



SnapperS
10.14.10 - 7:21 pm

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Just so you know the history of coming up with a start point and a time was decided amongst a few people on the la.criticalmass.yahoo group list.

The location was key to find a center point in the valley which could be easy for everybody to get to. If you look at the map of the valley. Rev106's Atomic Cycle is the center of the valley. He was cool with having it start at his shop, but we decided against it. We ultimately choose the spot that we did because not only was close to the center, it was off a major public transportation hub, freeway offramp( and easy parking for those who drove), had a grocery store that sold beverages passed the Ride's starting time. It was also close to some grassy areas if people wanted to kick it before the start in the summer time. We wanted to but never choose to meet in the park for fear of being harassed by park rangers or the national guard security.

If you move the start point to NoHo, it makes it much harder and takes more time for people from the other out laying areas of the valley to attend, such as the west valley. We choose this start point to get as many people out as possible and to try to make it fair and easy for all people in the valley.

The time was picked so that people could get together after work and school and have enough time to get to the start point and time before the ride left.

The day was tough, but there many of the other weekend nights where picked, (this was before there was multiple rides on a night and we didn't want to cross post with already established rides). We felt it would serve as a good hump day type ride. A couple of days after and before the weekend.

It worked out good for the first year and a half, had a low for a few months, then was revived by I think Danya taking promotion over and it look like it went strong for awhile. I think all that is needed is for someone to take the promotion on. I would suggest not changing the location and day, that would just confuse people who haven't come for a while and would like to attend again. I think it has been and remains a great start point.



sexy
10.14.10 - 7:59 pm

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Current start point is good and fair. Can't think of a better one. The Valley is just too damn big.



outerspace
responding to a comment by sexy
10.14.10 - 8:52 pm

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Spread the load out and over-extend the LE forces to the point where ticketing becomes an afterthought.

I believe this is part of the reason why the police drama in the Valley isn't as bad, too big of an area to cover, other matters to attend to.

Not to mention "bug-out" areas up the ass.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by SnapperS
10.14.10 - 9:48 pm

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sfv critical mass is dead set on the first tuesday of the month..............they are happy with their 3 riders per ride.............whateva........kool and the gang...........bamp baaa baaa.....TRADITION !!!



shotgun_mike
10.15.10 - 1:40 am

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So you think if you move it SFVCM more people will come they might but your going to have to post it up for everyone to see that way more than 3 people will be there.Just like the problem last month nobody wanted to post SFVCM so no one showed up.THEY WILL NOT COME IF NOT POSTED.I been riding SFVCM for the last 3 years some good and some bad just wondering how long you have been riding on this ride



crossbones
10.15.10 - 6:11 am

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I dont ride SFVCM. I ride the LACM every so often. Basically, my thoughts on changing the date was to give the people who roll to the LACM the OPTION to go to a valley CM. I wanted to get MORE involved with the SFV riding community (more rides).....i was just suggesting something new. I didnt know who was in charge of SFVCM. I tried to contact the person sara? , anyhow, she didnt get my email...............and noone posted the ride. I wanted to pump the ride up. That is the point of this whole thread. It didnt look like anyone was in charge, so i was trying to be proactive and maybe draw some people away from the MEGA LA ride and ride the SFV (where they live). If you are running the show, take charge and post up the ride every month, if not dont be surprised is someone hijacks your project. Overall, it isnt that big of a deal to me. Ya know? No worries. PEACE!!



shotgun_mike
responding to a comment by crossbones
10.15.10 - 7:50 pm

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I think it's a brilliant fucking idea to have SFVCM at the same time as LACM and to have it start at the same fucking spot it has before. In fact, I'm going to do it in two months. Holy shit steel reserve is fucking gross.



Immanuel Kant
10.16.10 - 12:16 am

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Small world. I know your sister Bloody!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Immanuel Kant
10.16.10 - 12:27 am

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darth borfo..................................



shotgun_mike
10.16.10 - 7:18 am

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So where does the route go?



fozzie66
11.2.10 - 12:45 pm

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we on tonight or what?



emptyhanded51
11.2.10 - 1:04 pm

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After reading this shit...i'm prolly gonna skip it...there are other rides...



FIXMYLIFE
11.2.10 - 4:55 pm

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you mean around the valley tonight?



fozzie66
responding to a comment by FIXMYLIFE
11.2.10 - 4:58 pm

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because tonight, tonight, tonight, whoaaaa ohhhh



shotgun_mike
11.2.10 - 7:23 pm

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Thanks everyone for coming out we had a pretty good tum out and a good route.Hope to see all you people next month



crossbones
11.3.10 - 6:51 am

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So it does still exist>>>> ?



FIXMYLIFE
11.3.10 - 10:05 am

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we saw tranny hookers



ttrreevvoorr
11.3.10 - 12:28 pm

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HAHA, yeah, were they still on the bus stop at canoga and sherman way?? we bounced out about 1115pm and rolled ...saw them next to a cyclist who had a flat (checked on him)..........too funny



shotgun_mike
11.3.10 - 12:59 pm

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SUPER!



^olsko*jr7
11.3.10 - 2:24 pm

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Thanks Simba been dragging my feet way to go for stepping up SFVCM this tuesday night come out and support the 818 also we have the 818 toy ride in one week



crossbones
12.3.10 - 11:20 pm

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3 more days first tuesday of the month



crossbones
12.4.10 - 6:50 am

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Good turn out good route fun downhill got some pretty good speed going down that hill.Sucked that I had to cut out early see all next month



crossbones
12.8.10 - 7:07 am

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