arizona border ride(fubar ride)
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louisiana at 11.5.09 - 1:28 pm
I am considering a ride from the santa monica pier to the Arizona border and back.date sometime in early 2010 and need people who are down. i have a route and will make it a 3 day there 1 day hotel and shower in blythe,ca 4 day back allowing for flats and oter bike problems.i am willing to pull a trailer with bike shit and food but need a support car and other people to ride(about 20 down motha fucas).list your name here and what you want to do this ride for and how many miles youve done max in one ride(i.e. taco tuesdays termins de estes 81 miles).my route goes up top to big bear so be strong.email alacazandrATyahooDOTcom with fubar ride in the subject if you need something that you scared to ask on the thread(wimp)
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What?
You don't want to muscle it up Chiriaco Summit?
The 10 from Banning to the border and beyond used to be my playground before I became addicted to blow.
bentstrider11.5.09 - 1:34 pm
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its a bike ride.i dont think bikes are allowed on that part and if they are i'll hit it coming back.let me know.
louisiana responding to a
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11.5.09 - 1:37 pm
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I'll look into it, aside from the 10 and some backwater roads, there's really no other way to get to the Colorado River along that route.
Yeah, the 10 was my truckers route, once we got past the Beaumont CHP scale house, we opened throttle all the way to Phoenix.
55 for trucks and 70 for cars could bite my ass!!!
bentstrider responding to a
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11.6.09 - 5:07 am
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Bikes are allowed on the highway any time there isn't a nearby alternative road, such as a few portions of PCH over here.
I'm down to ride, but you're going to have to stretch this out a bit more. It'll take at least five days, especially with Ridazz who've never done this sort of intense riding before. This is on par with the kind of riding the ALC kids do, and they started training for their fully supported ride last month. They also take a full week to ride 550 miles.
danya responding to a
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11.6.09 - 8:11 am
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Oh shit nevermind, I totally misread that. I thought you said 1 day there. hahaha, good to know you're not that crazy. the eight day ride seems totally fine.
But it will still need some sort of training. We should get some weekend double century action on at least two months before the actual ride.
danya11.6.09 - 8:13 am
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I like the idea of this ride due to it being a route that not many are too familiar with.
As I've said in other posts, the atypical touring routes are always heavily situated near ocean and such(nice and all, but that has become a little cliche for me).
Out here, you'll get to pass through mining towns, whatever's left of the WW2 desert training center(Gen. Patton trained all of the troops that fought the Germans in North Africa here), and the scenery is quite awesome over here in the Eastern SoCal enclave known as the Lower Desert!!!
bentstrider responding to a
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11.6.09 - 9:05 am
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okay i have one training ride route in mind 60 miles or so with a good hill in about 5 miles up.all interested people list namesas follows:
1.louisiana
2.bentstrider
3.
louisiana responding to a
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11.19.09 - 3:38 pm
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Well, I'll be hoisting Old Glory on the tail if I'm good to go.
The sight of the flag waving as we roll to and from will be somewhat of enough deterrence towards anyone trying to kill the buzz on this particular ride.
bentstrider responding to a
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11.19.09 - 5:09 pm
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cool idea...what's your total mileage each way? mileage each day? where are you staying each night?
TheJen11.19.09 - 5:21 pm
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Uh, nah. A pirate flag, maybe. But Ol' Glory would my buzz kill...
I'm considering this ride...
the reverend dak responding to a
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11.19.09 - 5:30 pm
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agreed...how about a Midnight Ridazz flag!
TheJen responding to a
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11.19.09 - 5:31 pm
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What's so lame about it?
If this has anything to do with the Liberal vs. Conservative/Repunks vs Demoncraps, then that's a piss poor reasoning.
How about the US and MR flags instead.
bentstrider responding to a
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11.20.09 - 12:36 am
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Isn't Old Glory the US flag?
I think it's lame, too. And it has nothing to do with either party, political leanings, or whatever you want to call it. It has more to do with nationalistic bullshit that I wouldn't want part of.
How about unicorns, rainbows and stars?
the reverend dak responding to a
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11.20.09 - 12:41 pm
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Fuck it, I'm hoisting and if my ass gets jumped for doing so, then I'm willing to take that risk.
bentstrider responding to a
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11.20.09 - 2:44 pm
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about 250 there and 250ish back.60,80,100 each day depending on hills and bike trouble.camping first 3 days,rent hotel in blythe,ca 4th day and 3 days more of camp.
i talked to brayden(?) about the ride and he said if we all want we can go to phienox az where his mom lives and stay there maybe.all shall be discussed
louisiana responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:34 pm
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also might stop at salton sea on way back!!!!!!!!!
louisiana11.22.09 - 2:35 pm
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Interesting! What might make it easier to organize is research camp grounds first...then plot the routes from one to another. After an 80+ day a hot shower is so good!
TheJen responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:37 pm
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I think once I got to the Arizona border I would want to keep going as far as I could...
I would really like to go all the way to the Atlantic and Amtrak back.
Mook11.22.09 - 2:40 pm
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its a ride in march so 85 could be possible.also someone said there friend has a cabin in big bear and thats my first stop.not sure if his friend will be down. also B.L.M. land is possible.
louisiana responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:42 pm
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THOUGHT OF IT FOR 2011.who knows where we'll go?!!?!?!?!?
louisiana responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:44 pm
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1.louisiana
2.bentstrider
3.TheJen?????
louisiana11.22.09 - 2:47 pm
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My best friend and I are working on a east to west coast ride this time next year...
TheJen responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:51 pm
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lets do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
louisiana responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:53 pm
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I'll let you know when plans are coming together. This will be an awareness ride. Very limited rider numbers, fully supported...etc.
TheJen responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:56 pm
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okay thanks. seacrest......OUT!!!!!!!
louisiana responding to a
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11.22.09 - 2:57 pm
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FUCK YO RIDE HOMIE
Xray11.22.09 - 3:31 pm
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bike camping FTW!
I hope I can do this. I still think we dshould do a bit of endurance training beforehand. Or at least, I should. My muscles have gone all wiry and scrawny from riding just my polo bike.
danya responding to a
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11.23.09 - 6:27 am
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85 is average weather.
125 is kick ass weather!!!!
Ah, to think I rode all around Vegas and Phoenix basking in the triple-digit glow.
bentstrider responding to a
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11.24.09 - 3:32 am
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1.louisiana
2.bentstrider
3.TheJen?????
4.sarah danya
5.??????????bradon??????????
6.
louisiana11.25.09 - 4:21 pm
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ride this sunday:
F.U.B.A.R. Ride Arizona Border (maybe phinox who knows) First Training Ride!!!!!!!!!!
Meet: Hollywood/Vine Metro Station
Time:4:20 Meet;5:30 Rolling !!!!!!!!DON'T BE LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
serious ridazz only or else those who want to get in shape and have fun;)
Bring all neccecery items:
*tubes
*patces
*brakes
*money
*love
*a bike
see you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
louisiana11.25.09 - 4:45 pm
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1. Louisiana
2. Bentstrider
3. TheJen?????
4. superblueman3
5. Danya
6. Braydon?
7. imachynna
imachynna11.25.09 - 6:35 pm
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Just so you know, what you're doing is called "touring". Its not uncommon, in fact ive done a bit of it myself. In fact, I rode through Arizona, in July heat, unsupported, on the way to eventually new york city. You might want to do some research, but you might not and learn some lessons on your own. :)
I think we got to Phoenix in 5 days. We had a host in riverside but just slept on the side of the road mostly. When you don't have a car, you can get away with a lot.
As far as training, we did very little more than a regular 20 mile commute. We weren't partying though, so you might need liver-training.
This sounds fun, Joshua tree is amazing. Ill be watching this develop. (I'm not commited to it yet)
SKIDMARCUS11.25.09 - 7:42 pm
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Alright, since we seem to have gotten past the political issues, tents, stoves, food storage, fire-starting, and other things will now be the name of the game.
At Big 5, I've seen some light-tents going for $30, but these could only fit 1-3 people depending on which one you buy, but light nonetheless.
Or, we could split the load between a couple and go for the 8-person domes.
Another thing to look at would be camping stoves.
Most areas of the desert out this way have little in the way of burnable wood.
There might be leftovers from an old house or driftwood along some of the drycreek beds, but Joshua Tree branches and sagebrush will do little to cook or warm anything at night.
In this case, either some camping stoves powered by butane or kerosene will be light enough to pack along for the purpose of meal-cooking.
Or, we could also man-it-up and haul cords of firewood along with us.
Food-storage, this could be accomplished by blocks of dry-ice and the spreading out of coolers if we're going to be hauling along any meats.
If not, then grains, salt-pork, and some beans will be the meals of choice.
bentstrider11.26.09 - 10:57 am
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Support vehicle. Extra tubes, tires, wheels, gear, water, etc.
TheJen responding to a
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11.26.09 - 11:11 am
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Thought we could add a little more self-sufficiency and just dedicate a converted Burley trailer or two to mechanical duties.
As far as water goes, camelbacks and spots on the bikeracks to carry extra, loaded bladders.
Strategically route stops towards either rest areas, truckstops, or clean flowing springs where water could be easily collected.
bentstrider responding to a
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11.26.09 - 11:20 am
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Sure..you could do that if feel you need to. Set up your bike now with panniers and such and weigh them down and start your training. 85+ miles on a heavy loaded bike isn't a small task
TheJen responding to a
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11.26.09 - 4:08 pm
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I've got 40 lbs loaded on my bike anytime I'm riding with y'all down there.
I carry the same amount in order to make myself comfy at work when I'm doing the 12 hour shifts.
I'm very certain I'll be able to pull this off and not wake up under an examination light, with the training I'm certain you've acquired, don't see how it will be a problem for you.
On another note, why all this resentment from you towards me?
If this is about all the whining from the past, then shit happens and people need to vent.
If not, then I don't know what else to say, other than "Sorry I offended you in whatever way I did."
bentstrider responding to a
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11.26.09 - 5:34 pm
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Having done several endurance rides and the most gear I've carried is a handle bar bag, saddle bag and a loaded jersey. The longest ride was a brevet which was 128 miles and some ungodly amount of climbing 8000 ft or more. I dong remember! Most of my riding is done unencumbered and I like that. I do have aspirations to do more randonneur rides and maybe Paris-Brest-Paris in 20111 which would require a real touring bike and self support.
I like this idea and that Ridazz want to do something bigger than a typical night time social ride...no matter how heavy your bike is there is a difference to 5 mile increments with an hour stop...you'd get no where real fast. A typical 100 mile day is a pit every 20-40 miles (more often in heat for water/calories).
Realistically knowing my schedule for 2010 and my involvement with AIDS/Lifecycle, family, work, training and possibly a season of crit racing....this probably wont be a trip I would make. However...I would like to see people involved conduct themselves in a safe and sane matter. Getting caught in the middle of nowhere with no support and no food/water and possible medical emergencies or mechanical failures is just not acceptable.
Funny thing is you'll end up looking just like the pic RoadBlock posted one day that you dissed as a bunch of yuppies out for a weekend wanderlust ride or some such commentary...dong remember...
As for you and I...It isn't resentment at all. Its a general lack of compassion on my part towards someone who could be doing something with his live vs lamenting what he does not have or cannot have. A constant (for a long time) desire to hijack every thread to whine and complain about not trucking, not getting into the military.
You certainly must have more interesting things to talk about...I do see that you are trying...am I a bitch? Perhaps...perhaps.
TheJen responding to a
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11.26.09 - 6:52 pm
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As for you and I...It isn't resentment at all. Its a general lack of compassion on my part towards someone who could be doing something with his live vs lamenting what he does not have or cannot have. A constant (for a long time) desire to hijack every thread to whine and complain about not trucking, not getting into the military.
You certainly must have more interesting things to talk about...I do see that you are trying...am I a bitch? Perhaps...perhaps.
I haven't given up on either of those things, but rather than piss and moan to the choir, I've decided to quit talking and take the fight to the two camps instead.
If I end up in prison, oh the fuck well.
bentstrider responding to a
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11.26.09 - 7:57 pm
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Oh, and by "fight", I meant consistently hounding the two camps and putting in petitions.
So far, the only reason I slightly worry about incarceration is due to violating the "stop coming here" message.
Getting back to the part about riding though, I guess I should take into the fact that having a full on schedule and regular does take alot out of a person.
So you do what you do and make time for all the rest of everything.
I guess it's just easier for me to play around since I don't have any kids or any other major responsibilities to deal with.
That's why I see taking off from work and doing a ride of this magnitude as a relieving thing.
Out in the middle of nowhere, getting down to business, not having to deal with the typical troubles of suburbanites ruining the small town atmosphere.
I could basically just toss all my shit out the window for a minute and take in the adventure.
Did I also mention I have no real intention of ever setting root down anywhere?
bentstrider responding to a
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11.26.09 - 8:04 pm
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1. Louisiana
2. Bentstrider
3. superblueman3
4. Danya
5. Braydon?
6. imachynna
glad to see chynna is down to cruss on my ride!!!!! sorry The Jen cant make it.your still welcome to train with us though.i like bentstrider's idea of taking an 8 person tent as i thought would be good myself.i already spoke to The Dude about borrowing his trailer and hes willing to let me do so.also he has a good training ride route.we will have a discussion tommorrow about all the details.riding up to hollywood sign and invading the christmas parade before doing mullholland drive.
louisiana11.28.09 - 4:29 pm
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Thanks Louisiana I'd love to join you...and you all are welcome to join in on my training rides as well. I have to be realistic about taking time off from work...you can always email the.jen.moore at gmail dot com if you have any questions or want to ride
TheJen responding to a
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11.28.09 - 4:49 pm
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thanks.if the times not convienate let me know.(this applys to all people,aliens too)
louisiana responding to a
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11.28.09 - 4:52 pm
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cmon, bentstrider isn't that bad. he can be pretty entertaining.
buckchin responding to a
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11.28.09 - 5:11 pm
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You could say that...and he might not realize it but we have been on rides together. I would love to find a way (I'm working on it) to make money from doing what I love so that my schedule could allow for more trips. This is my third year with ALC and that alone takes a min. of 9 day off from work. Then there is 5 days of interbike and various other bike trips...maybe even the Ivory Coast Ride to End AIDS...we'll see.
TheJen responding to a
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11.28.09 - 5:22 pm
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i personally have nothing against Côte d'Ivoire. i just wish they could pick an original flag! JK
buckchin responding to a
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11.28.09 - 5:28 pm
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I've met Mr strider too. he probably doesn't remember though because anytime I've talked to him we were riding and not at a stop.
buckchin responding to a
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11.28.09 - 5:31 pm
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I do think they are going to win the African cup though. and yes I'm Irish and bitter!!
buckchin responding to a
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11.28.09 - 5:39 pm
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Believe me, as much of a jerkoff as I've been acting, I was actually less negative a few years ago.
As I said, things will eventually turn around once the foot is inserted into the proper ass.
But for now, just read
this every so often.
All my rantings, bantings, and slammings in once, cozy, colorful package :))))))))))
bentstrider responding to a
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11.29.09 - 8:10 am
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WOOT FIRST TRAINING RIDE
it was just me and louisiana. cmon guys. we had an awesome time and you guys would've too. COME TO THE NEXT ONE MORE FUN PLANNED
superblueman311.29.09 - 10:42 pm
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WE WENT TO THE H-WOOD SIGN,AROUND THE RESIVOIR(FORGIVE SPELLING) AND MORE.THEN WE CAUGHT SMASHED UP AND WENT WITH THEM TO PALMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
louisiana11.30.09 - 1:39 pm
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=los+angeles,CA&daddr=BLYTHE,CA&hl=en&geocode=FYqYBwIdm77z-CkT2ifcXcfCgDH0CEYlb98v4g%3BFT7aAAIdBmYr-SnnEtFrQyHRgDGuJbJa7MJqLA&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=34.052234,-118.243685&sspn=0.709987,1.145325&g=los+angeles,CA&ie=UTF8&ll=34.013396,-114.835968&spn=0.177579,0.286331&z=11
HERES THE RIDE ROUTE.ITS SAFE TO WALK ACCORDING TO GOOGLE!
louisiana12.4.09 - 4:27 pm
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TELL ME WHEN BEST TO TRAIN FOR RIDE.DAYS AND TIMES
louisiana12.4.09 - 4:32 pm
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1. Louisiana
2. Bentstrider
3. superblueman3
4. Danya
5. Braydon?
6. imachynna
7. indigis
if you need to train and put some miles on, just train with Team MidnightRidazz. I'm up for your ride.
indigis12.4.09 - 6:26 pm
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Well, time to bust out the Hesperia-to-Silverwood-and-back route from 1999!!!
Do that shit after my gym workout around 1am-2am for the next couple of months whilst hauling my system and I'll be above the game and over the hoop!!!
This is kind of weird, but I seem to have done more long distance rides when I was 16.
And I had shit for bikes back then too!!!
bentstrider12.4.09 - 6:49 pm
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Ooh...I may have to reconsider ; )
TheJen responding to a
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12.5.09 - 11:55 am
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okay,when and where,ill make sure to be there!!!thanks for joining.Jen,thanks 4 reconsidering!
louisiana responding to a
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12.7.09 - 1:32 pm
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how long is that route and would you consider haveing it as a training route?we need more distance routes
louisiana responding to a
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12.7.09 - 1:35 pm
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=los+angeles,CA&daddr=S+Sierra+Vista+Ave+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:Foothill+Blvd+to:E+Foothill+Blvd+to:CA-66+E%2FFoothill+Blvd+to:W+5th+St%2FW+Foothill+Blvd+to:E+5th+St+to:E+San+Bernardino+Ave+to:San+Bernardino+Ave+to:San+Bernardino+Ave+to:San+Bernardino+Ave+to:San+Bernardino+Ave+to:CA-62+E+to:34.090199,-114.88266+to:Midland+Rd+to:BLYTHE,CA&geocode=FYqYBwIdm77z-CkT2ifcXcfCgDH0CEYlb98v4g%3BFYv7BwIdvqj1-A%3BFU-eCAId7MX6-A%3BFX5tCAId3Wf9-A%3BFUdsCAIdcXn--A%3BFSxsCAIdou_--A%3BFQJtCAId1xUA-Q%3BFThtCAIdYFYA-Q%3BFYFtCAIdAMEA-Q%3BFZdtCAIdwScB-Q%3BFaZtCAIdbmEB-Q%3BFa5vCAIdLbAB-Q%3BFb5zCAIdaX4C-Q%3BFYf6BwId0XME-Q%3BFZz6BwIdEqUE-Q%3BFZz6BwIdEqUE-Q%3BFZz6BwIdEqUE-Q%3BFZv6BwIdRaUE-Q%3BFQwXCAIdZHsn-Q%3B%3BFd6nBAId8ngo-Q%3BFT7aAAIdBmYr-SnnEtFrQyHRgDGuJbJa7MJqLA&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=19&sz=10&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20&dirflg=w&sll=34.09361,-114.66568&sspn=0.545881,0.88028&ie=UTF8&ll=34.139088,-114.466553&spn=1.091168,1.760559&t=h&z=9
a slightly revised route that goes to the dudes house 2 thank him for his trailer use and up route 66
louisiana12.7.09 - 2:04 pm
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p.s. this route includes about 7-15 miles of dirt road.it is smooth and just like a fire road so it will not hurt your tires!!!!!! i have already taken it in a car and studied it.however if you do not like this route i can change it.please feel free to ask me to change this or any other part of the route as i want this to be a enjoyable ride!!!!!!!!(if changed it will be slightly longer)
louisiana12.7.09 - 2:22 pm
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65 miles roundtrip from where I live, but you got to come up to the desert.
bentstrider responding to a
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12.7.09 - 3:28 pm
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i'm lookin forward to this shit man. when are we doing another training ride?
superblueman312.7.09 - 5:39 pm
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GOD DAMMIT LOUISIANA!! where did you disappear off too again?
goosegoose12.7.09 - 9:00 pm
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I DIDNT DIE I'LL BE ON TACOS TONITE
louisiana responding to a
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12.8.09 - 4:37 pm
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AS SOON AS I FIND OUT WHEN M.R. DOES THERE TRAINING RIDE ILL DO A FUN RIDE TO THERE RIDE!!!!
louisiana responding to a
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12.8.09 - 4:39 pm
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HOW FAR UP.ILL MAKE IT A RIDE FROM ROSEMEAD IN JAN.
louisiana responding to a
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12.8.09 - 4:40 pm
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West LA(where I saw you the first time) to Victimville is 100 miles when on the freeway, presumably longer taking the plethora of sidestreets.
bentstrider responding to a
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12.8.09 - 4:58 pm
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PERFECT FOR THE NEXT TO LAST TRAINING RIDE.ILL DO IT IF YOU WANT TO HELP LEAD IT THEN!
louisiana responding to a
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12.8.09 - 5:02 pm
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I could probably lead some of it up here, I work on weekends so it's going to be a little tight.
Keep in mind it's 20-30 degrees cooler up here and as much as I bitch about the shit weather up here, I'd rather wait until it warms up some.
bentstrider responding to a
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12.8.09 - 5:54 pm
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just let me know when its best for you then
louisiana responding to a
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12.9.09 - 12:43 pm
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1. Louisiana
2. Bentstrider
3. superblueman3
4. Danya
5. Braydon?
6. imachynna
7. indigis
8.?
9.?
10.?
anyone else up for it? we need 10 people at least.
louisiana12.10.09 - 1:18 pm
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need input for meet times as we all run this ride,we are a true democracy!!!!!
louisiana12.14.09 - 12:43 pm
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