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smoke from all the fires
Thread started by MrBoston1985 at 11.15.08 - 4:32 pm

Are people riding tonight? that smoke can fuck ya up.

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this smoke is lame. was gonna do a nice solo ride tonight too..



roughdraftx01
11.15.08 - 4:40 pm

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FUCK



imachynna
11.15.08 - 4:56 pm

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if you're gonna ride yo bike tonite, be sure and wear some sort of bandanna or sumptin over your mouth, if you're in an area where the smoke is really bad, wet the bandanna. This will keep the ash out of your mouf, you really don't wanna be inhaling large particulate matter...



FuzzBeast
11.15.08 - 5:04 pm

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I betcha fifty bucks that the fire was started by some fuckhead that threw their cigarette butt out the window along the road.

People like that deserved to be dumped out in middle of the desert and forgotten.

Anywho, I'm waiting for a trailer to be unloaded at this Target D/C in Rialto and the wind is blowing too hard.

I was driving along the 210 and I started to have flashbacks of that rollover!!!



bentstrider
11.15.08 - 5:09 pm

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i bet it was one of them fuckhead smoking hipsters... jj.

not that ash is healthy for you to digest or anything. large particulate matter is less dangerous than super small particulate matter. your lungs are able to filter out the larger particles.



quanmunist
11.15.08 - 5:26 pm

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it's been documented that firefighters have started few blazes in the past. insane, i know but read up on it for yourself.

either way... i feel bad for all those people who are now without a home. and although home is where you make it, it's hard to imagine making it in some strange place.



Jazzy Phat Nastee
11.15.08 - 5:28 pm

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@jazzy phat nastee

No shit.

Sadly, the requirements to become a full-time, type-I firefighter are so immense, they might as well make just make it an Associates Degree program where once you've earned it, you could fore-go all the minuscule bullshit.(ie., losing endorsements and gaining some on your license, Class-A Emergency vs. Class A Commercial w/HAZMAT., Many departments requiring you to be both a full-fledged, paramedic as well as a firefighter)

But, the ones to be concerned about are those seasonal, wild-land firefighters.
Once the fire season's over, CDF and USDA usually tell them to "fuck off" once things have cooled down.
But, with the shitty economy, money is as bright as the glow from the burning brush, sadly.



bentstrider
11.15.08 - 5:46 pm

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Who's riding tonight? It's obviously a better idea to stay home, but if I decide to ride, I'd like someone to go with me so we can both die.



imachynna
11.15.08 - 5:51 pm

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Yeah, goin to ride with mom ridaz! I'll smoke more than that silly wild fire can anyway!



Ratpick
11.15.08 - 6:04 pm

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I'm still riding tonight no doubt.

Going to bring the bandana that Fuzz gave me a few months back though. Thanks Fuzz!



jonnyboy
11.15.08 - 6:09 pm

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"not that ash is healthy for you to digest or anything. large particulate matter is less dangerous than super small particulate matter. your lungs are able to filter out the larger particles."

good to know there are other science folks out there...

boo on PM2.5 which is definitely out there right now, and would still penetrate both handkerchiefs and even nuisance dust masks. doesn't mean you shouldn't use them though, its better than nothing if you really have to ride. i took the metrolink from irvine to union station today and my lungs hurt from just sitting in the train.




sciencefriction
11.15.08 - 6:16 pm

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I'm just going to make sure my truck doesn't get blown over by this fuckin' wind out here by the 210/15 interchange.

That wind is probably what's fanning those damned flames and causing everyone to cough like Doc Holliday.

Anywho, brave it out like the tough, manly men that you all truly are.



bentstrider
11.15.08 - 6:19 pm

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yeah, lets blame humans for things that have been occurring naturally before humans were even around. droughts equal fires, which equals insulated assholes crying on the news about how much of a tragedy it is to lose a multi million dollar home in a fire, while homosexuals cant even marry one another in this state.

all in all, problems of the first world.



ruinedbyidiots
11.15.08 - 7:31 pm

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"yeah, lets blame humans for things that have been occurring naturally before humans were even around. droughts equal fires, which equals insulated assholes crying on the news about how much of a tragedy it is to lose a multi million dollar home in a fire, while homosexuals cant even marry one another in this state.

all in all, problems of the first world."

i would generally agree in principle, but 500 burned mobile homes, most likely those of people with fixed incomes like senior citizens, sucks. but to your point, disasters happen in developing countries all the time, affecting hundreds of thousands of people, and most of us are completely oblivious to it.




sciencefriction
11.15.08 - 9:04 pm

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because those were also the only structures that succumbed to this.



ruinedbyidiots
11.15.08 - 10:20 pm

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Well in light of all this, I'm sitting near a Target D/C in Fontucky being annoyed by some "Fast and the Furious" wannabes in their fart-cannon cars.

I wonder how some of these people have no jobs, yet find enough funds to fly around and burn up fuel like fucking idiots.

I'm waiting for the day these guys fuck up royally and explode!!!



bentstrider
11.15.08 - 10:45 pm

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newhall pass is on fiiirreeeee.

my eyes are super burning.



tinycities
11.16.08 - 12:01 am

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Then get Clear Eyes, for shiny, clearer, moisty eyes.

Or, however Benny Stein says it.



bentstrider
11.16.08 - 12:13 am

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stupid question, so how does said smoke fuck up your lungs?



upstate
11.16.08 - 12:29 am

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http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=50324




sciencefriction
11.16.08 - 10:04 am

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It looks like the apocalypse occured (and maybe there are zombies in the distance), and I'm in Silverlake. I can't image what Yorba Linda looks or feels like.



imachynna
11.16.08 - 12:59 pm

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Goddammit. I guess I'm just going to sit inside all day and play poker.



Alex Thompson
11.16.08 - 2:37 pm

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oops. i rode from vermont and the 10 freeway to doheny and wilshire just now.

p.s. I LOVE POKER.
....when i'm not actually betting with real money.






Frozen Fingersss
11.16.08 - 5:53 pm

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Not sure why people are feeling so sorry for these people getting their homes burned down. Sure it's devastating to loose your home, but these people choose to live there. You live at the interface of the urban environment and the natural terrain, you run the risk of loosing your home to fire. Like it was said, it's not like these fires are sudden occurrences. These fires have been going on annually for 1,000 of years. Our society is constantly pushing into these wild environments cause we want to live with the birds and deers (but not mountain lions). We push out the wild life for ourselves. What's the cost? High insurance premiums and cost of fighting fires constantly rising. We suppress these fires only to have bigger and fiercer fires next year.



User1
11.16.08 - 6:53 pm

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even just a couple blocks gave me a headache....



Roadblock
11.16.08 - 8:05 pm

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User1,
You live a few blocks from where businesses were burnt and looted in the Rodney King Uprising. I'd still feel bad for you if you ended up like some of those folks in trailer homes that got burned out ... or like some of my friends parents who nearly got burned out of their homes in Yorba Linda in the middle of a big housing tract thats not on the side of a hill.

We all take chances where we live, where we go, where we ride.
We never know when we will be victim of fire, flood, earthquake, or crime. Shit happens. Its a little callous to not to empathize with somebody just because the potential for disaster is there.

There has been shootings and muggings and car crashes on my street and on my block in the 10 years I've lived in this spot, it doesn't keep me from leaving my home ... I just try to keep my wits about me.

Still this Dead Kennedys song is a guilty pleasure:





trickmilla
11.16.08 - 9:04 pm

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trickmilla,

Yeah people take risks in alot of places they end up living at, but I personally didn't go about displacing wild animals where I ended up living. These people didn't need to either. They did, and now they're paying the price for it. I do feel alot more sympathy for people that have to live in a crime ridden area. The people living in these areas that encroach on the forest almost all had a choice where to live. These people are really taxing our resources too. We need to build a dense urban environment not one that's spread out.

One little snipet from two LATimes articles I like you to take a look at.........

"From 1990 to 2000, 61% of the housing built in California, Oregon and Washington -- more than 1 million homes -- rose in or at the edge of fire-prone wildlands, according to a University of Wisconsin study."

Region's new homes lining up in fires' path

Excellent article here........
As wildfires get wilder, the costs of fighting them are untamed
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User1
11.16.08 - 10:20 pm

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People losing their homes alwys sucks.

People losing their homes built in naturally ocurring burn areas is just plain stupid.

Your homeowners insurance premiums are higher to subsidize the claims in nearby fire-prone areas. Throw in all the money spent to send firefighters out there and it looks silly. When firefighters die fighting blazes that should be left to burn, only because they are threatening homes that shouldn't be there in the first place (and wouldn't be if not for the greed of developers), it's an abomination.

And yet the cycle continues. Once the fires die down we'll start hearing all the tales of how we will "rebuild"...

Idiots.

But seriously, don't ride yer bike unless you have to. It's reeeely bad fer ye.



Lance K
11.16.08 - 10:26 pm

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IMAGINE ALL THE SMOKE FROM MY POT SMOKING TIMES?

LOL



eddieboyinla
11.16.08 - 10:40 pm

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And people are worried about earthquakes, tidal waves, and nuclear explosives!!!

Sounds like a party to me!!!



bentstrider
11.16.08 - 10:43 pm

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but hey
what about the cocaine
stockpiled in the basement



ruinedbyidiots
11.16.08 - 11:21 pm

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benzstrider

he plays wif matches



Knittens
11.16.08 - 11:44 pm

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Well that is a different story.
But yes, while i did not displace any wildlife moving into my apt ... I am sure some was displaced 80 years ago when this place was built.

This whole area was indigenous people and wildlife before somebody else came along, and dug things up and put in housing then stole/ routed water from the north to feed this desert.

LA and Long Beach were all nature before somebody came through and paved it all over.



trickmilla
11.17.08 - 12:29 am

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The Los Angeles Basin was once wild so therefor it is justified pushing into wilderness today? Building more homes and displace more wildlife? And we'll use that argument until when? There's no more wildlife? At what cost? Just saw today that governator said state emergency funds will be available for rebuilding. At the cost of education and economic recovery.

AWESOME!



User1
11.17.08 - 12:22 pm

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Strike-Anywhere, Blue-Tip matches are my favorite!!!!



bentstrider
11.17.08 - 12:25 pm

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