Like for real whats the deal?
I miss the days when this site was full of fun comments and ride planning.
05.12.09 - 3:49 pm
But, seriously, it is not as if we don't all know what is needed: Less negativity and more mutual support. Less talk about individual freedom and more about collective responsibility. Not less talk and more action, but more of BOTH.
Mutual support doesn't mean turning off your criticality but rather treating other people with respect. Yes, even if you feel they don't deserve your respect. I know this is not the way of the internet, but that is just a lame excuse by scared boys for their own lack of self control. GROW UP.
Collective responsibility doesn't mean censorship; it means knowing that your actions and words have ramifications beyond just yourself. It also means that, as a group, we can accomplish more than as individuals, even if all we accomplish is FUN.
Action is good. But talk is good too -- when people conduct themselves in a mature manner. The idea that talk is all bullshit is itself bullshit as talk influences action. Action without thought is bullshit. MORE OF BOTH.
Okay, I've contributed my rant. Now let's see some more animated gifs.
05.12.09 - 4:15 pm
matt i like where this is going.
05.12.09 - 4:15 pm
most of the people on these threads cannot be represented by their handles in real life. a part of maturity is being able to control what affects you personally. however people often find themselves offended without reason, angry without conviction, and filled with entitlement but lack consideration. we pick and choose our battles, our sides, our rides, our friends.
there is no true 'negativity'. its miscommunication at best, and whining, and bitching and moaning.
if you can't handle the negativity, your participation is not mandatory.
you dont need to be on the forum to ride, and you dont have to ride to be on the forum.
and as many of the pseudonyms have already demonstrated, nobody can be held accountable for what they say online.
05.12.09 - 4:24 pm
You know, Junu, at the risk of sounding overly condescending, I feel sorry for people who grew up with the internet. Because, really, this attitude that not only are people not expected to stand behind their word but indeed that one is being totally unreasonable to expect that at all from people, well, this was not always the way.
In the end, what I posted yesterday still makes my point most succinctly:
All Roadblock is asking is for everyone to exercise some discretion and some creativity. This should only be a problem if you have none.
05.11.09 - 7:42
05.12.09 - 4:50 pm
I disagree Junu, I back my online words up. One time Tim Hammer and I got into a big fight online on another website, and told him he'd never beat 818 Polo as long as he was playing polo. And u know what? He still cant beat us!
05.12.09 - 4:54 pm
of course the MR forum is a very special place.
and the kind of shit talking im talking about are not verbal attacks with merit. settling those kind of feuds in a public open forum is cowardice anyways.
i'm talking about the little shit really, like when someone makes fun of my asianness and then another asian gets insulted or little petty things like that.
05.12.09 - 4:58 pm
You're right, Junu, that kind of stuff is just petty misunderstandings. No way to stop that stuff.
But there are bigger things that just get all blown out of proportion. E.G.O.S.
05.12.09 - 5:07 pm
and usually the people doing the blowing up of things are the same people. often times arguing on the same point on the same side
05.12.09 - 5:10 pm
sean--you know whats up.it has always been like this.things like this come in waves.
how about instead of complaining how you miss the good old days
( 5/08 for you ) start a ride yourself? no drinking,no drugs,and only positive vibes. i am sure people will come.
set the example by actions.who knows what kind of change you might bring.
i agree with alot of things you are saying.however its naive to think the change you are looking for will come from talking about it.
i wish you luck and ,NEVER FORGET TEXAS!!!!!!!!!
05.12.09 - 6:34 pm
I think it's time for Imachynna Syndrome 3, that's what it is.
05.12.09 - 6:46 pm
Talk plus action, yes.
I have been talking about starting a ride for a long time now and am almost ready to actually put it into action. After ALC, look for what will hopefully become a regular weekday (probably Tuesday) night ride from me.
05.12.09 - 6:52 pm
cool. dont forget you have two powerfull platforms with your radio
show and the beta level nights.
on my own i've been doing rides sober.pier pressure,last two no name rides,critical mass......to anybody reading this midnight rides
are just as fun not wasted.and you would be amazed how far a simple wave and thank you goes to preventing car VS. bike hostility.
05.12.09 - 7:03 pm
nobody can be held accountable for what they say online.
Not true. If hundreds of daily crap posts begin to dilute the site to such an extent that posters seeking a functional forum begin to look elsewhere, you may find that those crap posts, while lacking in individual substance, can link together to form a relavent reason to ban someone. I mean, assuming RB still wants the forum to be functional.
05.12.09 - 7:24 pm
oh yeah, and if your words are garbage, don't do stuff like atempt to participate in a secret santa. so lame.
05.12.09 - 7:25 pm
ok ehair to be fair, i have to dig through that e-mail but i got brandon as my secret santa recipient. just to make it up for you, i'm going to give you a present. ok? i'll think of something. i still gotta find that e-mail
05.12.09 - 7:27 pm
Exchange name: MR Secret Santa.
Person you are buying for: Brandon Turner
Maximum Gift Amount: $10.00
Exchange Date: Friday, December 12, 2008
Gift Guideline: Anything - Be Creative
Come on Ridazz. Lets get to it.
05.12.09 - 7:28 pm
yes eric hair your name is not brandon turner
05.12.09 - 7:29 pm
damn you people find the strangest shit to bitch about.
05.12.09 - 7:29 pm
oh great, a collectivist
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." -Thomas Jefferson
05.12.09 - 7:31 pm
and you know why else you can't hold anybody accountable for what they say?
because of those fuckhead imposters that make names that appear like other people's names.
so correction: you can't MAKE any hold themselves accountable for what they say. if YOU hold them accountable, thats YOUR loss cause NOBODY GIVES A FLYING PHUCKS
05.12.09 - 8:11 pm
you let yourself be ruined by idiots maybe that's why you sigh.
05.13.09 - 12:23 am
oops you didn;t start this thread
05.13.09 - 12:24 am
i was never here, i;m going back to still blazin'. gnight!
05.13.09 - 12:26 am
i am thinking about reputation systems. Stack Overflow
has a really awesome one. I've been thinking about how to bolt something like that onto this without messing up the existing architecture too much. This could help. And if someone's reputation points go negative, they'll find themselves not being able to do much. The tricky thing is figuring out how to prevent people from gaming the system, but I think we have enough users that most attackers would die of the tedium of managing enough fake accounts to sway the voting, and even them we could block 'em by IP, and the amount of dorky hacking required to get around that would really not be worth the effort. It's a discussion board, not a bank.
05.13.09 - 12:43 am
I'm thinking about "fuck that."
05.13.09 - 1:01 am
I dunno, Ben, I think you severely underestimate the lengths people will go to. Plus, it isn't really that hard to get around, is it?
It basically just seems like it would take the naturally occurring peer pressure of this forum and make it an anonymous process.
Maybe I'm wrong. But, in my experience, the solution to social problems created by technology is rarely more, or more complicated, technology.
05.13.09 - 1:13 am
I'm in Miami Bitch!
More Imachynna Syndrome!!!
05.13.09 - 1:49 am
There needs to be another syndrome......
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