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Thread started by Joe Borfo at 11.15.07 - 11:36 am
If anyone is considering going to Burning Man next year, I'd like to propose that we form a camp together in the name of Midnight Ridazz and let the creative freedoms continue from there.
This will be my 4th time going to Black Rock City next year and I am hoping to share the exprience with you all.
The Burning Man Project is an experience of a lifetime and requires proper preparation and encourages a collaboration of artistic minds to thrive together for a week in the middle of nowhere.
I encourage all of you to discuss on this thread plans and ideas of how we can form a theme camp of our own next year in the best bicycle friendly artistic event in the world.
I volunteer to bring my solar powered tape player if you don't want to warp your record collection we'll just warp the taes instead they might be sturdier.,>
Oh, yeah, it's always fun leaving camp, putting on a blindfold, and just riding until you hit something. One time I rode for over 4 hours until I hit an empty tequila bottle and fell over. If I hadn't hit that bottle I think I could have gone another 2 hours. I was so far from camp I couldn't see anything or anybody so it took me another 13 hours to find my way back. Next time I'll drop bread crumbs.
Crespin and I are definitely going...will be our sixth straight BM...well, not STRAIGHT burning man....you get the idea.
Had a great time last year with Rev Dak, Fluffer..never did find Cutter though.
A camp together would be great. Thought that if anyone was interested we could do a night somewhere for people who want to know more about it...what it is, what it takes to plan a trip...also you can get cheap or even free tix to BM if you know how to do it.
"I went to Burning Man ten years ago. I was fifteen years old and completely astounded. Will it have the same magic now? "
If by "magic" you mean "yuppie douche bag gawkers who don't contriubute", then the answer is yes, in fact there is so much more "magic" you won't believe your eyes.
"I went to Burning Man ten years ago. I was fifteen years old and completely astounded. Will it have the same magic now? "
"If by "magic" you mean "yuppie douche bag gawkers who don't contriubute", then the answer is yes, in fact there is so much more "magic" you won't believe your eyes."
To quote E.E. Cummings, " For whatever we lost, like a you or a me, its always ourselves that we find at the sea"
Four different people could go to Burning Man and have completely different experiences--it's really what you decide to focus on. Personally, I find bitter burners who whine about how the magic is gone just as annoying as yuppie douche bags.
And in my experience, after five years, it's still magical every time.
Did you go in 1903? I was there!!!!!!! Let me tell you, after 104 years it has changed!!!! Now it only takes me 6 days to get up there, it used to take 2 months!!!!!
The feedback on BM is that it's still got it going on. This despite being shaken down by BLM, is still the "happening" for the year. Yeah it's not going to be like it was 10 - 15 years ago, but it's not from the lack of energy from the burners. What has crept in is the establishment that the burners tried to avoid in the first place. I ran into a friend of mine at the love in mentioned above^^^ He got busted for smoking weed in the middle of the desert at night!!! The feds with night vision nailed him and his friend! Shit that's a far cry from what it was when I first went. I saw people with their drugs, weed, mushrooms, probably even acid, right on a table advertising it for trade!!! The event had very little need for outside policing either. Never was any drama!
What I thought would have happened by now is a big influx of dumbass frat boys. You know, the stupid fuckers that wear their hats on backwards, with a budweiser in hand, shouting out "show yer tits!!"
BTW, there is an alternative or an addition to BM. It's called Burning Bush, http://www.burninbush.org/
What I would love to see happen is for SRL to come out and either do their own thing, or join BM or BB. http://srl.org/
Hey guys thanks for posting. I've been waiting to give my two cents about this trip since Borfo posted and am very thankful to him for heading this excursion.
While Dac, Spiraldemon, David and I were biking around BRC lthis ast year all I could think about was getting this group of Midnight Ridazz out to the fuckin happiest place on Earth...and no it's not D'land; think D'land on acid or shrooms while biking around looking at beautiful people, art installations and the awesomeness of the great outdoors. True anyone can give their own experience about BM but it is (self) experiential and it's been a different experience for me every time.
I've been riding around LA with you low lifes for more than 4 years now. A lot of people look forward to BM as that place once a year where they can get on bikes, be themselves, tool around an international city and hang out with over (now) 45,000 like mindded people, hear great music and party. Sound famaliar?
Midnight, Critical, Sins, Cruise and many other rides are the closest I've ever felt to BRC in Los Angeles. Even the Decomprsession parties have never been as close. And it's not just on a Friday, Saturday or weekday ride..it's 24/7 for 7 fuckin fun filled days.
Next August may seem like a long time away to plan for a "camping" trip but right now is the time to begin the process. The lowest tier of tickets go on sale in January and they are limted.
There are scholarships available, both for "free" tickets as well as grants for artists and theme camps. It's been my vision to assist in bringing a theme camp to BRC for the purpose of bike repair and maintenance. As a repair center for the main means of transportion (besides peds) I'm sure we could be centrally located on a square or plaza.
I think the biggest challenge will be to maintain a "group" ideal or vision which coincides with one of the main themes of BM..Self Sufficiency.
Step 1: Meetings. Let's plan this, soon... I'm thinking monthly.
Step 2: Gather your ideas, your vision, your expectations, your thoughts. Put on paper bring to meetings. Ideas on forums get lost. These ideas can be events, art projects, theme ideas. etc. Questions and concerns, especially for first-timers, can be addressed on this forum and on a personal level. The meetings should be focused on running our camp.
Step 3: Have meetings. This is where we'll get *ugh* "organized".
Step 4: Make it happen.
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Anyone and everyone interested should come to the meetings. These meetings should be completely transparent and open. So yeah. Someone pick a date. *looks at borfo, dave & crespin*
"What I thought would have happened by now is a big influx of dumbass frat boys."
My friend and I had to stop a frat boy from beating up his girlfriend and then rounded up help to find her a place to stay in 2002. We were camped right next to them and just had one man tents so she couldn't stay with us. It was really ugly. It's part of the reason I haven't been back.
That being said it was still the best fucking week in the universe. Coulda used some punk rock out there that year, I love drum 'n bass and jungle, but I still had to stop by Thunderdome every once in awhile to get a r 'n' r fix.
Hey on planning stuff, I would like to help out. I think what would be a good idea on meetings, at least some of them, is to meetup before some ride we're doing. This would be real convenient.
OK, so I've spoken to Josef. He says he's in! He's not sure if he can make it to BRC but he's offered the Bike Oven as a meeting space for brainstorming! I'll check with Josef about the when.
So if you have any interest in attending this meeting watch out for a day and time.
If anyone is intersted please speak up! Just so we have an idea of how many people are thining about it.
there has been an influx of frat boys and the hippies & ravers HAVE taken over a bit. I definitly want to bring the punk rock back to BRC and also pranks. I want to "be the trouble i want to see in the world." and bring it to BM.
I was thinking the Midnight Ridazz ride that we host at BM be blinkie-light free... aka a mob of dust and wheels roaming the playa, that's a taste of my vision for our camp at BM.
This may fly over a bunch of heads. But check out what these pranksters have up their sleeves for next year. I think it would be fun if we all grow some balls and do it.
I think they would be far more successful if they managed to tear down the fence. I'm not sure how well the fence is though. I always thought the best way and time to breach this barrier was when a dust storm came up.
Another way that would be slick would be make an electric vehicle that you lay on. You would have some trash on you as a disguise. The plan would be to go in the direction of the wind. Cut the fence, then slowly start making your way in. If you're spotted, you could either make it to camp or bail out. Not sure what would happen if they catch you though!
If this gets big enough, and everybody ran all at once, then only a handful might get caught. Also, for those who don't do it, they could help by standing at the fence as coyotes and hide the runners in the crowd as they cross the trash fence. Hopefully some will help to set up camp inside for us all and once we ride our bikes en masse into BRC illegally, we can make it to our camp to get settled. Or if you want to buy a ticket anyways, that's entirely up to you. And watch out for those pinche cabron minute men.
What pretty much happens if you get caught trying to sneak in is they make you stand in line and pay for a ticket. I for one think I'd like to be part of the punishment crew and torture the ones who try to get in.
I'll check with Josef and once he offers up a time convenient for him or the oven one of us will post it.
I'm in either way. If a sneaky gets caught, I'll offer them a shoulder to cry on, food, and water!!!
My first BM had no fence!! No freddies!! No police state!!! People were more than glad to pay for tix if they could. I know that's not a viable model after XX number of years, but that first BM sure was fun!!!! Anything to bring back some chaos and little bit of uncertainty is ok in my books!!
Heh, 1st time was fenceless for me, too. But the last time I jumped the fence in and out several times to go for rides and was never hassled. I guess it's cause I wasn't in a car when I approached the BRODER.
"aka a mob of dust and wheels roaming the playa" sounds like a blast.
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If anyone is considering going to Burning Man next year, I'd like to propose that we form a camp together in the name of Midnight Ridazz and let the creative freedoms continue from there.
hell yeah.
We'll just have to resort to more modern technology.
I went to Burning Man in 1903, I was pretty mature for a 4 year old. And who needs drugs when the dust is mildly hallucinogenic?
ah memories!
Hey guys thanks for posting. I've been waiting to give my two cents about this trip since Borfo posted and am very thankful to him for heading this excursion.
Hey on planning stuff, I would like to help out. I think what would be a good idea on meetings, at least some of them, is to meetup before some ride we're doing. This would be real convenient.
Hey Crespin, I had a great time last night.... yeah so I snuck out early, I'll tell you why later.
This may fly over a bunch of heads. But check out what these pranksters have up their sleeves for next year. I think it would be fun if we all grow some balls and do it.