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Thread started by Delirium at 06.3.09 - 4:09 pm

of the little crew kids coming up on Rides at 711 and super markets.

a BANISHMENT is in order..

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WAT





ruinedbyidiots
06.3.09 - 4:10 pm

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These supposed to be little bands of outlaws traveling on mixed bikes?

The type that just show up on scene and then leave without a HELLO?



bentstrider
06.3.09 - 4:11 pm

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same lame asses stole some beer on taco tuesdays last night...the clerk HOPED over the counter to stop them and the kids almost started a fight with him...fuck em



pretti*ugli
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06.3.09 - 4:19 pm

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I TOTALLY AGREE!!! (They steal shit and give the rest of us a bad undeserved reputation)




X-Large
06.3.09 - 4:20 pm

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Some young, dumbfucks that would probably serve a better purpose on an Arizona chain-gang.

If you catch them doing that shit again, pound them and make an example out of 'em.

Their parents were probably drunk or high off their asses while raising them anyway.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by X-Large
06.3.09 - 4:27 pm

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its ok to break the law, just as long as we dont steal?



ruinedbyidiots
responding to a comment by X-Large
06.3.09 - 4:28 pm

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i was two seconds from snatching the dude by his collar...but the clerk was faster than me...and i hate to sound and look like the enforcer of rules, but the dumb shit has to stop!



pretti*ugli
responding to a comment by bentstrider
06.3.09 - 4:28 pm

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they did it at 711 on Vermont and Franklin last Critical Mass
the cashier called LAPD




Delirium
06.3.09 - 4:28 pm

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indeed indeed, fire starter...



pretti*ugli
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06.3.09 - 4:29 pm

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i mean, if we are out standing around in parking lots drinking and smoking (im guilty of this too) then it sort of gives the impression to these kids that we do anything and everything and its ok to get away with this stuff. policing the doors to the stores making sure they dont do this stuff has worked in the past, so why not continue it?



ruinedbyidiots
06.3.09 - 4:32 pm

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wish you had a picture of his face so that we could avoid him.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by pretti*ugli
06.3.09 - 4:32 pm

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breaking the law it totally and completely fine with me as long as you don't do something to jeopardize the ride for everyone else.

I will be sure to kick some ass next time I catch them.

if i see them at a ride, I'm going let whoever leads it know what business the kids bring with them



Delirium
06.3.09 - 4:34 pm

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Back in the day if my mom or stepdad ever heard or caught me stealing, they would've dropped me off buck-naked in the middle of Death Valley and left me there.



bentstrider
06.3.09 - 4:35 pm

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breaking the law it totally and completely fine with me as long as you don't do something to jeopardize the ride for everyone else.

this doesnt make any sense at all.



ruinedbyidiots
responding to a comment by Delirium
06.3.09 - 4:36 pm

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SMOKE WEED


DON'T STEAL!!


?make sense?



Delirium
06.3.09 - 4:49 pm

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bring your own booze and don't stop at store. or post up at a park and tell people where the store is around the corner and make them go by themselves. kids feel like they can hide within the group when the group's at the store.



sciencefriction
06.3.09 - 5:22 pm

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fuck yea prettiugly



aksendz
06.3.09 - 5:26 pm

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Inevitably we will break some laws, BUT breaking the laws that will get us banned from stopping at our favorite places or ruining the ride for everyone sucks. You know how those idiots can ruin a person, don't ya?

Tagging and destroying stuff at our stops will eventually have those places locked or patrolled heavily by law enforcement.

Stealing from stores gets us banned from returning to those stores( we have already been banned from three stores due to incidents of a few - thanks a lot few :(

Break laws that don't hurt the community like running a stop sign or red light with no cars in sight. Don't break laws that will inevitably lead to our demise. (and I do think that corking can be ok done in a proper positive ways)

RBI, I know your just trolling, but is speeding in a car the same as committing hit and run on a cyclist, everything must be taken into a matter of degrees and common sense.



X-Large
responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
06.3.09 - 7:01 pm

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if you want to think that every post i make is a troll post, then thats your prerogative (bobby brown), but comparing a speeding car to a hit and run is like comparing the country of japan to the carpet in my apartment.
there is no grey area when it comes to breaking the law. its black and white.

cyclists that run red lights and stop signs and act as if the rules of the road dont apply to them give all cyclists a bad name, so how can you say that doesnt hurt the community?



ruinedbyidiots
responding to a comment by X-Large
06.3.09 - 7:08 pm

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Here comes the big guy XL to the rescue.



TIMESARECHANGING
responding to a comment by X-Large
06.3.09 - 7:09 pm

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Score rbi- 2 ---- xl-1



TIMESARECHANGING
06.3.09 - 7:11 pm

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I wanna ride my bike all daayyy
and party every night


stupid kiss inspired tunes



Delirium
06.3.09 - 8:34 pm

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There are totally grey areas when it comes to the law, that's why there are judges. If the law was black and white then everyone would be a criminal, but that is not the case in the real world. In the real world, if you do not make a full stop and put your foot down at a intersection while on a bicycle the general consensus of the population would not classify that cyclist as a criminal. Now on the other hand, shoplifting a television from Best Buy would have the general consensus of the population thinking that that person was a criminal. How about stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family? It is the same as stealing a beers to get drunk with the homies, right? Wrong.

Remember the guy in Texas that ran a red light to get his wife to the hospital before her father died?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6343765.html

He broke the law by not coming to a complete stop at a red light, so why is everyone in that city's government not rallying around the officer's decision? Why, because of degrees of the law.

There are definite degrees and circumstances when approaching the law, the law is not black and white, there are changes in the law every year to accommodate the general population.

How can it be said that running a stop sign at a empty intersection is the same black and white principle of breaking the law as stealing goods from a store owner and depriving him of goods that he has invested his money into to make an income to feed his family?

Please educate me, because everything I hear and see about the law points to that everything is NOT in black and white, even when dealing with government and law.





X-Large
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06.3.09 - 8:34 pm

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THIS WILL HAVE TO BE CONTINUED LATERZ, CUZ I BEES ROLLING OUT TO GET DRUNK AND RUN STOP SIGNS. LOL



X-Large
06.3.09 - 8:36 pm

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so basically what youre saying is "do whatever you want, its only breaking the law if you get caught."



ruinedbyidiots
06.3.09 - 9:02 pm

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These guys are going to have to be watched carefully from now on. They seem to be stealing from the ridazz too.



User1
06.3.09 - 9:11 pm

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That's not what I'm reading from what he said.



User1
responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
06.3.09 - 9:16 pm

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I say the next time this happens, we all collectively chase down the criminalz and give them what they deserve.



RickDarge
06.3.09 - 9:34 pm

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crew kids?

did you mean crew cuts?



Eric Hair
06.3.09 - 9:48 pm

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Xlarge has a great point that I agree with. Law's are not black and white, nothing in this world is.

But back on subject I think the answer is public shaming; shoplifting, not holding your line, not leaving the left lane open, all these issues could be easily solved if EVERYONE who witnesses the perpetrator calls them out on the issue.

I read lots of complaining about such things on these boards but don't witness much public shaming on the few # of rides I'm able to make it to.



sshagy
06.3.09 - 10:10 pm

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POSTING IN TROLL THREAD:


Anyway, can I propose a new policy?

YOU: Witness asshole on ride steal something and attempt to run out

YOU: Alert everybody, including cashier if he hasnt already noticed, whats going on

YOU: Pull out ya camera, somebody elses camera, multiple cameras, cell phone camera, pencil and sketch paper? and get a picture of previously mentioned asshole

YOU: Having the first picture of its kind, start the new gallery ''RIDE THIEVES''.


Yeah?



angrytoaster30
06.3.09 - 11:30 pm

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That's great if there's one or two of them. It's a different story when there's 10 or more. We've had pretty good results watching people going in and out of the store. Plus someone is inside keeping an eye on things.

I plan on giving the cashiers a heads up if I'm solo and there's a bunch of them.



User1
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06.3.09 - 11:38 pm

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So, designated door watchers?



angrytoaster30
06.3.09 - 11:46 pm

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On last Friday's LACM ride I held several riders backpacks while they shopped. It made the supermarket security and manager happy.

At another supermarket, the manager was going to call the police because of a 'funny smell' outside. I discussed it with him and diffused the situation.

THe only way to keep stores happy is to do similar things, have several monitors and talk to the security folks first. It's a shame but needs to be done!



Limeyfly
responding to a comment by angrytoaster30
06.4.09 - 12:01 am

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I agree, and its best to do the door-watching as non-covertly as possible. If they know somebodys going to be eyeing them up as theyre leaving the door, theyre sure as hell not going to take anything. Having it as a suprise really wont prevent anything, just have us more prepared to catch some dick stealing. I dont care what anybody does on their own time, just dont steal on a ride damnit.



angrytoaster30
06.4.09 - 12:09 am

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i say, if they steal from stores,ridazz etc.. we each take a piece of their bike, i.e. a crank, the chain, brake pads. etc.. :)

if they want it back, they got to either pay for it the easy way or the hard way :)



tekmo
06.4.09 - 2:01 am

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If Tyler cut his hair short, but kept those mirrored sunglasses, he would easily pass for a LEO.




bentstrider
responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
06.4.09 - 6:27 am

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No, not in any basic way am I saying that. I am saying use common sense more times than not.



X-Large
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06.4.09 - 12:45 pm

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LOL



TIMESARECHANGING
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06.23.09 - 7:48 pm

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