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Thread started by popsiclekid at 01.20.09 - 7:15 pm

Are my ears bad, or my friends crazy or is this true.

A friend told me that a rider got into an argument with a driver and when the driver said "dont make me get out the car" the rider pulled out a gun and said "you wont need to do that"

anyone else hear this, please help my nightmares go away ha.

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Yes its true.

The driver has been shot.



Graham
01.20.09 - 7:17 pm

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End this thread before the FBI comes in.



Graham
01.20.09 - 7:18 pm

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Squirt Gun?; Grease-gun?; Blackhead Gun?; Nail-gun?; Tri-Gun?;

Bop-Gun?;



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 7:20 pm

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you know what is going to happen right?

some 16 year old high school kid is going to to end up in some sort of fatal confrontation or accident, we're going to see all of his/her classmates on tv talking about how good of a kid he was and how much he never meant to hurt anybody, and then the police chief will talk about how we need to disband and stop. they will antagonize us and criminalize us.

this is turning into a sideshow as they say in DA TOWN (510).



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 7:20 pm

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He had a right to pull the gun out!
The driver was Angry, confused, Outrageous, and stupid

In his rage he was driving like mad and could have seriously injured or even killed someone and thier bike. I approve of his trying to protect us.



rayrayray
01.20.09 - 7:22 pm

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guns are lame.



funanu
01.20.09 - 7:23 pm

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Well, let us hope that this was actually someone who was legal to carry.

And if he/she was a LEO, or some equivalent that just happened to be the recipient of such abuse, then they acted accordingly.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 7:24 pm

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he had a right to pull the gun out??


did he have the right to carry a concealed weapon?



la duderina
01.20.09 - 7:25 pm

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i was there and the guy was like naw man i dont have a problem
with you ridazz i was talking about the bum in the back



and the guy with the gun was like thats right and you better
not be distrubing him either so get back into your car
before i take that


listen to be learned is dont mess with people with guns


and stay out of trouble



nightestrida16
01.20.09 - 7:25 pm

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I don't know what to say.



imachynna
01.20.09 - 7:25 pm

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midnight ridazz
not fitazz..



rayrayray
01.20.09 - 7:26 pm

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wow, if someone pulled out a gun on me, (especially some punk ass kid on crank mob), i would dare him to pull.

i can live with me no longer being alive, but if that guy lets say pulled it out, hes either going to shoot me, or i'm snatching it out of his hands.

how fucking stupid can you be to bring a gun to a place with 700 people on bikes. really. do you feel big wit a gun? speaking as a target of 3 drive bys, 2 near miss ricochet, countless number of friends who died by the bullet, and my dad has been shot 3 times, you must be out of your MIND.

i hope you were licensed, even though LAC does not give out CCW's only under extreme circumstances.

i can't fuck wit this anymore. i'm done with the mob. peeese



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 7:31 pm

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Well, this MOB was quite big, so as usual I never really see half the drama that goes on along the stretched-column.

Although when we were at that Cheviot Hills park, thingamabob, I saw two guys get into some girly, slap fight over some stupid shit.

They were serious, but the way they were fighting nearly killed me!!!



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 7:31 pm

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honestly, adam, i wish my palm was big enough so i can smack some sense into EVERYONE.



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 7:35 pm

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Grey area, In a large crowd, not necessary,
Riding home alone late,bad area, manditory.
If a rider pulls a gun to show off act big, Hopefully they get in trouble before someone gets hurt. One less idiot with a gun.



Dedicated818
01.20.09 - 7:44 pm

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True its a grey area. You dont understand until your in that situation when a gat would have gotten u home safley most of the time just showing it will get the offenders to kick rocks and run for there lives even if ur not seriously going to shoot them. I prefer not to carry my gun it can get you into serious trouble the type that can ruin your life type of trouble..



Debut213
01.20.09 - 7:50 pm

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"how fucking stupid can you be to bring a gun to a place with 700 people on bikes. really. do you feel big wit a gun? speaking as a target of 3 drive bys, 2 near miss ricochet, countless number of friends who died by the bullet, and my dad has been shot 3 times, you must be out of your MIND."


Jesus crap, iJunes, remind me not to stand next to you. You're like a magnet. D8



Stomachache
01.20.09 - 7:58 pm

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no i just grew up in a bad bad bad place.

so glad i'm out of there..

which is why i dont have the patience for bullshit like this. cause its not some 83 holding a gun at you.

its probably some punk kid from culver city who forgot to lock on the release.

and personally i'd rather get shot then have some other random person get shot.

then we can take that really nice carbon fiber look and turn it into a ghost bike eh?



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 8:00 pm

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instead of reease i meant safety.





_iJunes
01.20.09 - 8:01 pm

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And why even bother packing when you're with a big ass crowd anyway?

If you're like me and ride at 2AM down a road going through open desert, then I could see the sense in having one.

But, in a large throng of people who could easily turn an aggressive driver into hamburger, just leave the fucking heater at home, or tell daddy to beat your ass for going through his gun-drawer.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 8:05 pm

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because PUSSIES forgot how to be PRIMAL



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 8:06 pm

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i take JOY in the ground and pound.



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 8:06 pm

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I take joy in eating hamburger with spinach leaves.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 8:08 pm

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del taco tuesday.



_iJunes
01.20.09 - 8:08 pm

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Haha, let's hope it doesn't come to that. Go all 50 cent status and wear a bulletproof vest always. Well...you don't live in that neighborhood anymore so I don't think there's a need, but you never know, it might become hip again....


....was it ever hip to wear bulletproof vests?



Stomachache
01.20.09 - 8:10 pm

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Speaking of fights happening
On that c.r.a.n.k mob night

Any of you people that were
There over at hollywood&western with mom ridaz?

Remember those drunken
Ghetto kids
Hitting each other with that
Vodka bottle?
ha-ha funny stuff but then
At the sametime not
So funny.
What if that bottle cracked into pieces on that dudes face?

OUCH!



madmike
01.20.09 - 8:11 pm

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"If you're like me and ride at 2AM down a road going through open desert, then I could see the sense in having one. "

Yeah, you probably should. I was once riding out in the middle of nowhere in the low desert during the week, there wasn't a soul around accept for this creepy dude who kept driving by in his creepy mad maxed out pickup truck with homemade shell. I started looking for places to hide but the bushes are pretty small out there. After about the 5th drive by he finally kept heading east while I was continued west back to my car.



toweliesbong
01.20.09 - 8:14 pm

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Haha, I remember that fight. That chick was hitting that dude with a plastic bottle. I almost forgot about all that. xD



Stomachache
01.20.09 - 8:15 pm

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Haha, sort of sounds like my younger bro and his friends before they all joined either the Army, or the Air Force respectively.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 8:15 pm

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Dude something about that part of the fight made me laugh SO hard. I mean, for some reason, over all the yelling and cursing and whatnots, all I heard was the hollow bottle sound making its warped plastic thunks as it hit that guys head. Effing HILARIOUS.



Stomachache
01.20.09 - 8:21 pm

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I hope to truth and Eris that this isn't true.



Jazzy Phat Nastee
01.20.09 - 8:25 pm

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Hahaha yeah
I was like "omg oh no she didn't just hit him with that bottle"then at the same time I was also like "haha your serious?a girl with some 6inch
Heels stomping on somebodys face?"

But then she somehow escaped when the cops came?
But that one dude who came up to us was pretty cool,[and not as drunk as the rest of them]



madmike
01.20.09 - 8:27 pm

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Yeah, that guy that came up to us afterwards was pretty chill...for just finishing kicking the crap out of some dude. I still think he came up to us just so we side with him if the cops asked for anything, Iunno. That girl, though, lol. Ohhh man.

Moment like these make me wish I had some kind of magical video camera that can appear out of nowhere. 8(



Stomachache
01.20.09 - 8:31 pm

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Man where was eddieboyinla
When we needed him?!??

That would of been the highlight
Video of all of crank mob activites that night in battle with that game of volleyball
With that huge soccer ball.

But yeah that woulda been some great fotage.
Woulda had some lil scrappy or some music like that in backround.





madmike
01.20.09 - 8:36 pm

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this is Los Angeles.

the odds that someone may have a concealed weapon are pretty high. just learn how to spot the machismos, pussies, and other sketchy ass characters that would bring a piece to a bike ride and avoid them.



coldcut
01.20.09 - 8:36 pm

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tWAT?!?!







FBI
01.20.09 - 8:39 pm

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Pulling a gun like that would likely count as assault with a deadly weapon, and most likely a CCW charge since concealed carry permits are few and far between in L.A. county.

Bikes and guns don't mix. Get pepper spray, it's a lot cheaper, it's legal, and you can't accidentally kill innocent bystanders.

Jesus, bringing a gun on crankmob is the worst idea ever.





JB
01.20.09 - 9:31 pm

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I saw the whole gun incident. It was so weird I didn't really register what was happening or that it was a real gun. It looked to me that the guy in the car just wanted to get out of the parking lot. I saw him trying to leave, and someone on a skateboard rolled right in front of him and he had to slam on his brakes. Yeah he got mad, maybe he was sick or tired and just wanted to get home, lost his temper, and ran out of patience with the people taking over the parking lot.



Velocipede
01.20.09 - 10:00 pm

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hipster
01.20.09 - 10:06 pm

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Crank Mob or Gun Mob ?



Dedicated818
01.20.09 - 10:07 pm

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Just plain, old Mob in this case.

Perhaps the mob will have to advance to a different stage in order to shake off this dirt.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 10:16 pm

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Anyone remember a few years ago at the end of the Beach Party in Winter ride (I wore speedos) when some greased hair dude got angry at the ride and pulled out a gun?

The response was one I'l; never forget.

The ride ended at a bar, and this angry dude pulls up and gets his gun from his trunk and starts waving it around.

A bunch of male ridazz start throwing their beers at him and yelling, "How may fuckin' bullets you got?!" They start a slow walk in his direction.

Dudes girlfriend begged him to leave, and they scurried into the car and got the hell out of there (slowly, 'cuz there was a ride in the way).

I watched all this while trying to blend into an electric power pole.

I guess the crazy asshole tables have turned?

Thanks Crank Mob!



ubrayj02
01.20.09 - 10:17 pm

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Damn I don't about some of you. There's nothing good that can come out of someone carrying a weapon when there's 500+ other people around. I probably would have called 911 and reported it. Kept an eye on the dude so I could still spot him when needed. Then get that fucker out of the pack when the cops showed up. But then again, that's just me.



User1
01.20.09 - 10:22 pm

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As pro-gun as I y'all already know I am, I wanna see a picture of this guy.

Get it plastered all over the place and out for everyone to see.

We either need to teach him a firm lesson, or get him to leave before the shit goes down.

Hell, I'll personally bombard him with ATF, NRA, and other "safe-gun initiative" paraphernalia just to get the idea through his thick skull that CRANK Mob, is neither the time, nor place for firearms.

Now fireworks, I don't know how those disappeared, but I'm pretty sure someone gave that camp a hard, heart-to-heart.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 10:27 pm

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I missed the fireworks dudes. They were safe from my experience with them.



User1
01.20.09 - 10:40 pm

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I think those guys last appeared at the July Mob.

Perhaps they're still lurking around in the shadows, waiting to put on the biggest, pyrotechnic wet-dream that all the CRANK Mobsters have ever fathomed!!!!



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 10:43 pm

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Is this serious? Seriously serious? Someone on the ride had a gun? Or is this all fabricated 'n shit?



Ms. Stephanie
01.20.09 - 10:59 pm

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@user 1
Narc, Rat,



Dedicated818
01.20.09 - 11:15 pm

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@Ms.Stephanie

I'm certainly hoping it was a misinterpretation of some shit gone awry.

For all we know, the rider could've been calling the drivers bluff.



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 11:17 pm

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Someone seriously had a gun. Is it serious?
I leave it to you.



rayrayray
01.20.09 - 11:18 pm

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yea, i would like to no if you guys are seriose, i thought my friend was just fucking around.

If someone brang a gun on crank mob than safe mob has failed my friends.

i mean, imagine me 15 years of age 125 pounds all i got is a bike and a dolla, i got nothing to protect me from no bullets.






popsiclekid
01.20.09 - 11:21 pm

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Hell yeah!!

And damn proud narc rat at that!!!



User1
01.20.09 - 11:28 pm

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Alright, let's all thank God that no shots were fired and no one ended being hauled away under those grizzly circumstances.

I've yet to see death myself, but I already know what to expect and fear I'd die myself if one of y'all were to go down in such wasteful fashion.

We've got a month to get our shit together and keep the Mob as what it was originally supposed to be.

The party-boat that found it's way from the Mississippi River to the Westside and split into it's own river of two-wheels!!!!



bentstrider
01.20.09 - 11:29 pm

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You lost me at Alright Adam.



User1
01.20.09 - 11:40 pm

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Well, in other words, I hope I'm not the one indirectly responsible for any of this shit.

Yeah, my tactical get-up was one thing, but I'm going to feel really nerve-wracked to think that someone looked at that as an inspiration to start packing on large rides.

Thing is, we'll just have to start preparing ourselves to deal with the inevitable in a way that just ends with the offending party not showing up anymore.





bentstrider
01.20.09 - 11:57 pm

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I say.
We all ride naked so we won't be able to hide anything.
Besides, then I can see Alfredo.



rayrayray
01.21.09 - 12:01 am

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you are responsible for all of this. for shame.



coldcut
01.21.09 - 12:05 am

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Hey! That's my son you are speaking of.



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 12:06 am

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MIDNIGHT RIDAZZ IS SO FUCKING COOL.





ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 12:08 am

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/ /

DiTtO YaLlZ!!! FiXxErZ 4 LiZzIfE!!!



midnytehustla
01.21.09 - 12:10 am

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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!






Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 12:11 am

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Colt M1911's are some heavy firepower, indeed.



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 12:13 am

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shakes head



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 12:13 am

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you and your guns, bent.... see what you caused!?!?!?!



coldcut
01.21.09 - 12:14 am

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"i wish my palm was big enough so i can smack some sense into EVERYONE"

+1

I'd rather stay in my hood and take a walk at 2 a.m. at least people here are too broke to buy guns and I have a better chance of wrestling with a cracked out kinfe armed mugger than a drunk gun holding hipster kid.

This is bull. I started hanging out in the west side to avoid violence. Now...meh.



Tarmonster.
01.21.09 - 12:15 am

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PsShH!

yOu AiNt FrOm PiCo UnIoN ThEN DaWgZ!! I ShOot PeOPlE oN ThE rEgUlAr!



midnytehustla
01.21.09 - 12:18 am

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ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 12:21 am

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@tarsis

"Too broke to buy guns", that's kind of true and fucking funny for some strange reason.

I guess to change the methods of violence, perhaps I should start wearing "extreme, white-face", grow some long, white hair, and implant a feeding/suckler device into my palm.

I will become a Wraith!!!!



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 12:22 am

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1. How do we know it was a punk ass drunk hipster kid?

2. "I say.
We all ride naked so we won't be able to hide anything.
Besides, then I can see Alfredo."

Ew.


3. "Hey! That's my son you are speaking of."

Alfredo! Looks like all your yelling has gotten you with Borfo as a dad!





imachynna
01.21.09 - 12:25 am

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so how long now till someone gets shot?



KiMS1
01.21.09 - 12:27 am

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All this talk of guns is going to intice someone.



rayrayray
01.21.09 - 12:28 am

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fuck dude,

the police are GONNA CRACK THE FUCK DOWN on rides now.

does anybody know this kid?



KiMS1
01.21.09 - 12:29 am

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He looked kinda older.
Mid 20's-25.
Facial hair.
Hat.



rayrayray
01.21.09 - 12:29 am

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and....
I'm done with this thread.



rayrayray
01.21.09 - 12:30 am

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nobody knows who this is?


this is fucking so stupid.






KiMS1
01.21.09 - 12:31 am

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I say....I know I know...I know! I dont like the idea too but just move the moba nd spread directions through word. Or else the very essentials of F.U.N. will be lost.



Tarmonster.
01.21.09 - 12:33 am

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If there's a pic of this dude in the photo section, just log on with a new account and finger the fucker. Just be sure it's him!



User1
01.21.09 - 12:36 am

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If someone shows a gun call 911.


Stupid little kids.





Satan on a Tricycle
01.21.09 - 1:12 am

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Somebody was chewing gum on crank mob? No wonder they crashed.



stillline
01.21.09 - 3:14 am

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Guat!! This is sooo not cool. Whoever was holding that weapon could have hurt another rider or himself. What if he didn't have the safety on and has an accidental discharge?!

I might be able to see his rebuttal as to why he would even do that, but still. You're going on a ride to socialize, not fucking kill.

Awwww, Borfo ^______^ ♥

Ray, I just really don't know how to respond to that.
Why Am I Up This Late?



Alfredo
01.21.09 - 4:17 am

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What the fuck. Is this for real or another internet thread spun off of make believe? I want zero part of anything attracting people with firepower that goes beyond sparklers and fireworks.



GarySe7en
01.21.09 - 8:02 am

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I think if I see anyone packing on a ride I will do my best to convince them to leave the ride. If that means hanging with them and explaining why, and missing the ride myself, so be it.

Unless they are crazy or inebriated. Then I'm hauling ass and taking their photo from a distance and yelling at EVERYONE that some crazy fucker has a gun.

Seriously, this is the most uncool shit I have ever heard of.



ephemerae
01.21.09 - 8:19 am

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It's hard enough living, now i have to worry about some hipster gone emo pulling some childish bullshit.

Honestly, someone who feels the need to do that is not someone to be trusted in any way shape or form.

This is scarier than some dude busting a wheelie next to me.



revolutionary
01.21.09 - 8:46 am

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In your opinion....

You suddenly find yourself in the situation where you know a rider is carrying a gun.

What is the best, safest, most effective way to get him out of the pack without endangering the lives of everyone around?



revolutionary
01.21.09 - 8:55 am

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TO EVERYBODY,
What if the guy who pulled the gun was a undercover narc. cop?
Cop's always pull there gun first ask questions later.
Thats a covert way of shuting down the rides.
Just as Blackwater was hired to disrupt the election convention's
acting as anarcist,giving the Police a reason to stomp protesters.

WHAT IF ?
a motorist drives his car into a crowd of cyclist trying to run over as many riders as possible?
Would it be ok for someone with a firearm to take em out ?

@user1
If everytime you see a gun you call 911, your an idiot.


Also; the picture of muzzle is a Berretta, not a 1911 Colt.



Dedicated818
01.21.09 - 9:12 am

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hmmm.. agent provocateur. interesting



asparagus
01.21.09 - 9:14 am

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i heard it was a flare gun. frankly, i cant imagine someone bringing a real gun to cm, but a flare gun makes a lot more sense.



tortuga_veloce
01.21.09 - 9:21 am

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@ revolutionary
Just because someone is in possesion of a gun dose not mean
that there a danger to everybody.
Some people have extensive training and are more level headed than the cops.
Seems like you guys need to educate yourself's about firearms.

Ya in a perfect world there would be no guns or violence,
but you live in the big city and that aint going to happen.




Dedicated818
01.21.09 - 9:26 am

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as a gun lover myself I cant believe im gonna type this but guns, alcohol, and drugs dont belong on ANY ride. just drugs and alcohol.

This doesnt bode well for the community and mofo's need to be proactive should they see someone with a gun. Shit isnt safe nor cool.

No comments from the Crank Mob brass on this?



jchungerford
01.21.09 - 9:32 am

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If someone pulls a gun - be they rider, motorist, or pedestrian - you dial 911, you explain that someone has pulled a gun, and you leave. Provide description and name if possible.

In other words - turn them in. If you know who pulled the gun, or flare gun, or whatever, they committed a felony, they're not welcome on CRANK MOB - turn them in. CRANK MOB isn't some gang or family that "protects it's own" - you pull shit like that in front of me and you're going to jail.



Alex Thompson
01.21.09 - 10:06 am

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@Dedicated818
There are responsible gun owners in this world. Posession & brandishing are two completely different things. He brandished all willy nilly at an angry motorist on a group bicycle ride.

How in your world is brandishing a (potentially loaded) gun in an aggressive manner an act of a level headed individual?? How is that acceptable behavior within the bicycle community?

Someone who has undergone extensive firearm training knows that you don't pull a stupid stunt like that. Its reckless behavior.

"you live in the big city"
You're absolutely right! Though my opinion differs from yours, i'm ok with that. I do what I feel I need to do to keep my loved ones safe. If I report that cat, then its his problem to explain his motives to the authorities.

I'm not down with massacres because someone feels the world owes them.

Oh and cops don't need to be covert to shut down a ride. Take a look at what happened to Long Beach Critical Mass.

Have a great day!



revolutionary
01.21.09 - 10:07 am

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GUN!!! WTF!!! Thats so not cool stray bullits kill! we def need to call this guy out and kick him out ! just for the safety of others! What worse is if the gun fell or this guy crashed and the gun went off that bullit would hit you or me or a friend riding by! unexcceptable!!!!Boooooooo to you gun holder!



pporras
01.21.09 - 10:12 am

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Ditto to what Alex said, I see shit like that and I'm reporting it to the cops. Fuck that shit, the cops mostly let us be because we are not seen as a threat, the moment we have an incident with shots fired it's all over. Any person brandishing a gun, knife or any other deadly weapon in such a manner should not be welcome on any ride period. As far as I am concerned any person okay with or complicit with this activity I don't consider you welcome either.



GarySe7en
01.21.09 - 10:16 am

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@revolutionary
your mistaken I am not defending actions of the brandisher on the ride. and do not consider them level headed.
The last thing I want is somebody pulling a gun out in a crowd of riders.

And yes the Man could start shit,
that way they could classifie M/R as Gang Activity




Dedicated818
01.21.09 - 10:25 am

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"If someone pulls a gun - be they rider, motorist, or pedestrian - you dial 911, you explain that someone has pulled a gun, and you leave. Provide description and name if possible.

In other words - turn them in. If you know who pulled the gun, or flare gun, or whatever, they committed a felony, they're not welcome on CRANK MOB - turn them in. CRANK MOB isn't some gang or family that "protects it's own" - you pull shit like that in front of me and you're going to jail.

Alex Thompson"

+10,000

If you've got vigilante fantasies, anger issues, paranoia, or whatever else might tempt you to carry firearms in public, get them dealt with, and don't bring guns on a ride.

This isn't about narcing, self-protection, or any other childish BS like that. You bring a gun on the ride, the police will be called and you will not be on the ride any more.



JB
01.21.09 - 10:30 am

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oh boy.. calling the cops gives 50 psychos w/ guns the opportunity to search and harass everyone. i'm torn..

hopefully this never happens again :-(







asparagus
01.21.09 - 10:38 am

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There should be zero tolerance for deadly weapons on rides. If we get the LAPD against all rides with full force because we go from being seen as hippy weirdos to gang activity because someone gets shot, then the freedom we have been allowed on the streets is over, done, no more Midnight Ridazz. I repeat, any one participating in this kind of activity, or complicit with it, or just let it be because you don't care, I don't want you at rides and you don't deserve to be a part of Midnight Ridazz. If you are in that category of people, fuck you. Period.



GarySe7en
01.21.09 - 10:47 am

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I'm typically not one to speak in harsh words, but I'm serious. We need people like this kicked out, gone. If we don't start policing our selves a little, the cops will have no choice but to get involved.



GarySe7en
01.21.09 - 10:52 am

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Thats right !
Calling the cops will really start a shit storm !

Everybody will become suspect.

How about talking to the offender,asking them to leave.
because there endangering everybody.

Do you really want to call the cops ?
and tell them a rider with a gun ?



Dedicated818
01.21.09 - 10:53 am

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THERE WAS NO GUN. IT WAS PEPPER SPRAY.

Here's the story.

1. There was an IRATE senior citizen. trying to leave the parking lot.
2. Some guy tried to help the driver out of the parking lot by leading him through the bikes.
3. Driver was ANGRY and CUSSING and threatening to run people over inside his car. Guy tries to calm him down by telling him he'll help him through.
4. The guy directing him through the crowd was ALMOST run over by Driver.
5. Driver was yelling. FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKERS. I CAN'T EVEN SHOP. I'M GONNA RUN YOU MOTHERFUCKERS OVER.
6. As driver was leaving, someone yelled at him.
7. This set off the drver, who unbuckled his seatbelt and opened his car door.
8. That's when the pepperspray/gun was pulled on him and he was told to GET BACK IN HIS CAR AND LEAVE.

From my understanding, this dude was only trying to mediate the situation and calm his anger and only pulled out the pepper spray when driver attempted to get out of his car to fight.

I'm pretty sure had the driver gotten out of the car to confront that cyclist, the driver not only would have gotten his ass beat, but his car would have probably gotten trashed. Driver left with a hurt ego, ugly situation averted.

TO QUOTE JB...

Pulling a gun like that would likely count as assault with a deadly weapon, and most likely a CCW charge since concealed carry permits are few and far between in L.A. county.

Bikes and guns don't mix. Get pepper spray, it's a lot cheaper, it's legal, and you can't accidentally kill innocent bystanders.

Jesus, bringing a gun on crankmob is the worst idea ever.



JB
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boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 10:54 am

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you dont think a guy that pulls a gun on a driver wont pull it on you for asking him to leave the ride?



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 10:54 am

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pepper spray.. that's awesome!!!!





asparagus
01.21.09 - 10:59 am

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Thanks Boogaloo!



JB
01.21.09 - 11:01 am

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103 replies for nothing.



_iJunes
01.21.09 - 11:01 am

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a cop reads the 1st half of this thread.....



asparagus
01.21.09 - 11:03 am

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WATERGUN ON CRANK MOB.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 11:04 am

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HAMBURGER BUN ON CRANK MOB.



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 11:05 am

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@ revolutionary
Just because someone is in possesion of a gun dose not mean
that there a danger to everybody.
Some people have extensive training and are more level headed than the cops.
Seems like you guys need to educate yourself's about firearms.


Yeah, except that given the context in which the gun was drawn, it is abundantly clear that the moron with the gun is NOT level-headed and likely has little to no training. No one with half a clue about firearms is going to draw first unless the threat of physical violence is absolutely imminent, and likely not even then. If you shoot someone who is unarmed, you are going to wind up in jail unless you had a strong reason to believe that they represented a potentially mortal threat barehanded. In the context of a crowd of hundreds of supporting cyclists, that argument is utterly specious. Had he used his gun, he'd have gone to jail for murder or attempted murder.

Additionally, carrying a gun when you know you will be drinking is never acceptable behaviour. Maybe the culprit wasn't drinking, but given the nature of crank mob, that seems unlikely.




ideasculptor
01.21.09 - 11:12 am

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ummm... helloooo??? there was no gun?



boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 11:13 am

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END IT



Aqueous Atom
01.21.09 - 11:15 am

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dude! pssst! it was pepper spray. shhh.. don't you know?Ii mean, it might of looked like a gun but that's what the new peeper spray cans tend to look like now. Didn't youread what boogalo wrote? sheeesh.



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 11:15 am

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some pepper spray would have came in handy at the chicken sando ride, those yellow chilis I brought weren't spicy enough.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 11:16 am

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this looks like a gun to me.



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 11:17 am

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thats the new breath spray.



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 11:18 am

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This looks like a pepper spray to me.




boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 11:18 am

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If the glove don't fit, YOU MUST ACQUIT!



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 11:20 am

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@ideasculpter

every bullet has a name written on it.

no matter how much training you have, its still meant to be fatal.



_iJunes
01.21.09 - 11:21 am

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that "gun" doesnt even look real. maybe if you were buck rogers or something.



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 11:22 am

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^^^ NON BELIEVER!



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 11:24 am

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On a lighter note, I was blasted by an Airsoft, sawed-off yesterday!!!

Got bored and went down to the Paintball/Airsoft Junction to test out some new toys!!





bentstrider
01.21.09 - 11:26 am

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adams always bringing his airsoft gun with him on rides. should we also not allow that?



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 11:29 am

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GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE GOT EXCITED OVER NOTHING.

Lots of good dialog



Dedicated818
01.21.09 - 11:43 am

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here fishy fishy



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 11:47 am

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This thread is an exemplary reason why Midnight Ridazz dot com destroys brain cells.



jericho1ne
01.21.09 - 11:49 am

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we trust adam, even if the government doesn't :(


(and no, that's not saying its ok)



jchungerford
01.21.09 - 11:52 am

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uummm ahem.......

with full intentions of being a total hater.

the problems being faced by your "party ride" are the same ones that saw an end to midnight ridazz (as an organized monthly ride) several years back.

the party grew too big and "fun" and the organizers grew tired of criticisms, feared liability, and generally felt that what they had created was turning on them. hence why leadership was handed over to the masses to make their own rides.

now another wave of riders that either forgot this, never knew about this, or just want to relive or continue the party are facing the same issues- multiplied of course by the growing popularity of "owning" a bike and the mass communication that the internet provides. so yeah this is a perfect equation for some shit happening an the organizers finding themselves in a shit storm

sorry but rain on the forecast has me feeling gloomy

am i the only one that sees
the end of midnight ridazz 2.0 ("crankmob") on the horizon?



bicioso
01.21.09 - 11:55 am

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ruined by idiots



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 11:59 am

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i guess i can see the end of MR 2.0, but also the beginning of Midnight Ridazz 3.0, the end of that.. then beginning of 4.0... then eventually we'll hit double digits and start calling it Midnight Ridazz CS,.. Then CS1, then CS2... Then Midnight Ridazz XP, then Midnight Ridazz Vista...



boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 12:02 pm

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Some of you need to stop speaking out of your culos.

With that said...

What this person did was inappropriate. If the driver would have started swinging, then a fist to the face would have been enough. Maybe some pepper spray. MAYBE AVOID THE SITUATION ALL TOGETHER.

You'd be surprised how many people "Carry" on ANY ride. You'd also be surprised to know that anyone who knows SHIT about concealed carry would not have pulled their piece out in a situation like that. You don't respond to verbal abuse by pulling out a deadly weapon. This is common sense.

This idiot, either pulled out a BB gun, a toy gun, or the gun was unloaded. This idiot could have hurt bystanders. This idiot should not be allowed to stick around for the remainder of the ride.

So what should you do???

DON'T CALL THE COPS. They will break up the ride. Fun OVER.

I heard a lot of "bunch of pissed off crank mobbers with U-Locks". So scare the fucker away and stop being pussies!

I doubt it was a cop. If it was, then you guys got a bunch of Narcs riding with you. In which case CRANK MOB is royally burned.



el_spaniard
01.21.09 - 12:04 pm

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omg.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 12:08 pm

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el_spaniard... you do realize it was pepper spray and not a gun right?



boogalooSHRIMP
01.21.09 - 12:09 pm

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at this point i dont think it really matters what it was.



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 12:11 pm

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i heard it was an alligator..



asparagus
01.21.09 - 12:12 pm

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I heard jonnyboy had a tree in his pants.



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 12:14 pm

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On a lighter note, I'm pretty sure I saw a guy getting head from a girl in a dark corner at the westwood park. Either that or she was tying his shoe for a very extended period of time while rocking and forth. But then why be in a dark corner?

You get it all on Crank Mob! Love and Hate.



kaslik
01.21.09 - 12:19 pm

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how cool is that!



coldcut
01.21.09 - 12:22 pm

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Either way...very disappointing.



TheJen
01.21.09 - 12:29 pm

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I've been too busy experimenting with "soundwave-warfare" to be packing any heat on the rides.

Why injure one person with a bullet, when you could drive thousands to insanity with repetitive Country tunes?!?!??!?!?!?



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 12:37 pm

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oh is that why you rock such shitty tunes - bravo good sir... bravo.



Aqueous Atom
01.21.09 - 12:39 pm

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you cant deny that youve brought your airsoft mp5 or whatever it is and shot pellets at people in the crowd. thats foolish.



ruinedbyidiots
01.21.09 - 12:40 pm

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Tyler, I saw this shit coming and put an end to it when I did.

I keep all that shit up here where the only things that could be plinked at, deserve to be.

Namely, OC transplants and their fucking teenagers driving monster trucks trying to run people over.

Speaking of which, it seems as though the desert is taking on more qualities of that dreaded place than once was thought!!!



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 12:45 pm

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"I heard it was an alligator"

lol Are we playing MR phone?

Even though thread ended. If a situation with angry motorist involves getting out of car and trying to kill people. I would like to see some ridazz kun fu fighting. Including me. This is the last peoples ride ALL OVER again but with the "(pepper)gun scare".



Tarmonster.
01.21.09 - 1:16 pm

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How about someone bring a live, fighting-dog in a cage to one of the rides????

Sick that mean monster on some agitating motorist, then let nature take its course!!!



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 1:25 pm

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training dogs to fight is inhumane!



coldcut
01.21.09 - 1:30 pm

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just take pictures of the douche bags! first, the flashing lights wake up their brain from inactive state. second a hamster starts running around to power the throught processes. third either they realize that a photo of them in action can implicate them or more likely their brain starts to hurt from the rusty hamster wheel. either way in the end they scamper off.



neverclever
01.21.09 - 1:32 pm

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Training to fight inhumane dogs is necessary!!!!!



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 1:43 pm

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inhumane dogs? LOL.

i hope you're kidding.



coldcut
01.21.09 - 1:50 pm

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I wish somebody would pull a gun on CRANK Mob. And shoot it in the temple. Figuratively speaking.



PC
01.21.09 - 1:54 pm

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i'm your #2 fan.



coldcut
01.21.09 - 1:56 pm

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in the mob at ralphs i heard it was the driver with the gun ...
i am no witness



bakedcake
01.21.09 - 2:08 pm

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PC wants to kill the MOB???

And after all the cookies and kickbacks it gave you!!!

In that case, I'll start THORN Mob!!!!

Where I ride all the way from the desert down to the Westside, and lead the truly faithful to the promised land!!!(my house)



bentstrider
01.21.09 - 2:22 pm

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Guns are for pussies and fake gangsta wankstas



stillline
01.21.09 - 2:29 pm

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If you were really "Hard Core", you would all just get nekkid.

pepper spray guns are for chumps.



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 2:42 pm

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"Guns are for pussies and fake gangsta wankstas"

Precisely. Back when I was a kid there were no guns, there weren't even knives, hell, nobody had even figured out how to make a club yet, so we settled things with our brains.



toweliesbong
01.21.09 - 2:44 pm

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Real men wait for you to walk near a cliff and then push a giant boulder on your head. Anything else is cheating.




stillline
01.21.09 - 2:48 pm

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How many people saw this guy with a gun and didn't call the cops immediately?.

If I saw someone with a gun on a ride i would dial 911 first thing. That's no joke. Guns are evil little things and I have no sympathy for the idiots who carry them.





stillline
01.21.09 - 2:51 pm

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even if it was a pepper spray gun? ...hmmm



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 2:53 pm

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was it apepper srapy gun? If it even looks like a real gun I'm dialing.





stillline
01.21.09 - 2:58 pm

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boogaloo confirmed it. yo



Joe Borfo
01.21.09 - 3:02 pm

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Lets end this thread here.

It was a pepper spray gun. Everything has been cleared up and it's not happening again.

Just as a note to anyone who brings a weapon (like mace) to a ride, remember that by pulling it out, you are jeopardizing the entire ride and the time of the people who are on it. There are a dozen ways to handle a situation without violence or weapons.



richtotheie
01.21.09 - 3:52 pm

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Very well said.



toweliesbong
01.21.09 - 3:55 pm

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Dedicated818 -
your mistaken I am not defending actions of the brandisher on the ride. and do not consider them level headed.

Me -
That's strange, cause you're portraying this person with the gun as being level headed. You made the statement, "Just because someone is in possesion of a gun dose not mean that there a danger to everybody. " and "Some people have extensive training and are more level headed than the cops. " Sounds to me like your defending this person. And those are just the juicy lines, there's other lines above that sure point to you defending this person.

Sounds to me that you, Dedicated818 are the one way off base defending that actions of this dude. I don't see anyone that takes the position that this was a good move. And as was stated above, anyone that condones this is just as guilty as the guy pulling the gun.

boogalooSHRIMP, you said this was a pepper spray that was pulled and not a gun. Who told you this? Who was the person that saw this? rayrayray was pretty adamant that it was a gun. To the point that he bailed on this thread as you can see from above. Guess you I'm believing? I could see how some would think the best way to squash this is to dream up an alternative story.

It's also troubling that we have some nut job that is pulling a gun on a senior citizen in a car with 500+ people backing him up. It's equally troubling that there's some nut jobs that justify these actions!



User1
01.22.09 - 12:46 am

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call 911



asparagus
01.22.09 - 1:33 am

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THIS THREAD IS OVER.
It was a PEPPER SPRAY GUN. Not only did i SEE it be pulled out, but have held and examined it, have talked to the person who pulled it.
The last thing we need is for ridazz to fear that a loose canon is carrying an actual firearm on these rides. END THIS HERE.





richtotheie
01.22.09 - 7:10 am

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LET'S make a biking rap VIDEO a la death row gangsta rap video style except will be all about bitches, bikes, blunts n glocks (ladies don't get offended this word is being used for the sole purpose of staying true to the sometimes offensive genre and format of this brand of hip/hop).

We can screw around and make some parodically funny or seriously angry road rage retaliative freestyle rhyming commentary to drivers and their road rage and frustration for our existance and occupating of road "their" space...

and at the end of the video they'll be a lil scene that fades to black before the shots are fired:


--"GET BACK IN YO MOTHAPHUCKIN' CAR BIATCH... I SAID, GET BACK IN YO... (POP POP POP -[9mm blasting 3 rounds]

-[drivers head drops onto stearing wheel and is pressed against the car horn]


Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....


end of scene.



Eddie GOpez
01.22.09 - 9:48 am

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suits on bikes. we'll be like mobster bikers with biking talored suits or most of the time just shirts ties and vests with matching hats.



Eddie GOpez
01.22.09 - 9:51 am

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you forgot "say hello to my little friend"

goosh!!




theladiesman
01.22.09 - 9:54 am

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@ USER 1
YOUR AN IDIOT, LOOKING FOR A ARGUMENT



Dedicated818
01.22.09 - 10:01 am

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BLASPHEMY!!!



Eddie GOpez
01.22.09 - 1:59 pm

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why would you even pull pepper spray on an old man???

Blah...someone nuke this thread please!!! There was a teddy bear on CM!!! I was sad because i missed it... i dunno know



pretti*ugli
01.22.09 - 6:21 pm

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why would you want to nuke a thread if you don't like pepper spray?



shadylane
01.22.09 - 6:28 pm

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pepper spray makes it easier to season my curry chicken stew... other than that...id rather "place" my elbow on someones chin.

Pepper spray has a mind of its own...



pretti*ugli
01.22.09 - 6:32 pm

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its me im the old man in the op, whatcya gonna do about it SHOOT ME?!



robin swabin
01.22.09 - 6:40 pm

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ummm maybe cuz that old man was threatening to run people over and he was getting out of his car to fight? maybe someone should have pulled out some crumpets and tea and sat down with him, reminisce about howdy doody, teddy roosevelt then maybe taken him on a stroll by the old mill.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.22.09 - 7:02 pm

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OMG SRSLY GUYS ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS? IJUNES SAYS STOP NOW




Should've just gone with a cigar. They're cheaper.



Sigmund Freud
01.22.09 - 7:06 pm

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Ok I know this thread is over, but I just wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Yes it was a MACE GUN.
what happened was a middle aged man,(big guy might a add) was driving through the parking lot, he was pissed that there were bikes everywhere and was trying to get through them, even though he a one of the riders were escorting him through and being very patient with the guy, I was standing about 7 feet from the car when he was driving passed us, the man started yelling "GET THESE FUCKING BIKES OUT OF HERE!!!!" when the guy I was talking to turned around and yelled back "CALM THE FUCK DOWN!!!!" the man instantly hit the brakes and started reaching for his CLUB, right before the man was about to get out of the car the unknown rider walked up and pulled out his MACE gun and told the man to not get out of his car and to just drive away. It was at that point the man realized he was way out numbered. so he threw his club in his back seat drove off.
If anything I think the rider did the right thing, if he hadn't had done that someone could have seriously gotten hurt, the man was gonna go after this kid with a SOLID STEEL CLUB, that could easily put somone in the hospital, what the rider did resulted in no injury's, not one person got hurt. beides mace is actually a good thing to have when riding, just in case, whether is a road rage psycho about to run down some riders or some crazy dog that got loose.
everyone needs to stop freeking out! its mace, your sister probably carry's it.



Trambo.45
01.23.09 - 5:23 pm

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if a guy is about to run some bikers over, i would suggest not macing him and obstructing his vision. you might inadvertently cause him to hit more riders since they would then be more worried about the strange burning sensation in their face and not where they are driving.



ruinedbyidiots
01.23.09 - 5:27 pm

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well the way I see it, if some lunatic wants to run over some bikers, it aint gonna be too hard, dont get me wrong, you can get some good speed on a bike, but your not gonna out run car. if you mace the guy, yeah sure he might hit someone, but I would rather him hit lets say 1-3 rider then crash into a pole, as opposed to not doin anything and let him take out 8-15 riders, either way its gonna suck, but you got to look at the main picture. if someone wants to come and fuck with us, fuck them. think of the road like prison, if you let on car punk you, then all the cars and gonna start punkin you, let em know that we aint gonna be takin any shit!



Trambo.45
01.23.09 - 8:29 pm

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RBI

I HIGHLY HIGHLY DOUBT some driver is going to get all pissed that he got maced and decide to just floor it and mow down some riders.

Not only would this make him a wanted man, he would most likely crash his vehicle... Double whammy.

Not to mention the rest of the mob would remove him from his car and either hold him for the authorities or pulverize the shit out of him with his own CLUB- or do both.



jonnyboy
01.23.09 - 8:40 pm

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as a side note, a mace gun can get you in more legal trouble then an actual fire arm, just thought i would mention that



Little Evil Eddy
01.23.09 - 11:03 pm

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Fuck guns, I'm bringing a cross-bow with exploding arrows!!!!



bentstrider
01.24.09 - 12:46 am

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adam - shut the fuck up.
jonny - have you ever been maced before? do you think they are going to put their foot on the brake and then put the car into park and then worry about their eyes burning and everything else that comes with being maced?
ulock the car all you want. break their windows. slash their tires. since thats what a true bike punk would do since they dont think rationally.



ruinedbyidiots
01.24.09 - 2:30 am

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Or take the keys out of the ignition once the driver exits the automobile.

You would think that after repeat airings of the Rodney King and Reginald Denny beatings that most motorists would've learned to;

"STAY IN YOUR CAR!!!"

Once a motorist steps out of their car, any credibility they once had in maintaining their innocence has just been flushed down the toilet.

In the case of a questionable crowd that may or may not be threatening.



bentstrider
01.24.09 - 2:45 am

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I'm with stider, crossbows for sure, or fuck it, lets just start rollin with machetes, that'll be a new ride, the machete mob, the cops would love it, hahahahaha



Trambo.45
01.24.09 - 2:51 am

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FAVORITE LINE TO USE !

Just remember you stoped to get ass kicked,
by someone wearing Lycra.



Dedicated818
01.24.09 - 11:53 pm

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2nd FAVORITE LINE

Looks like you want to suffer a beating in public.



Dedicated818
01.24.09 - 11:57 pm

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3rd FAVORITE LINE

When you lose your license for felony road rage.
You'll be the one riding a bike.



Dedicated818
01.25.09 - 12:01 am

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Or, another alternative to a firearm or bow-weapon would be a shot of FAYGO to the drivers face!!!!

"JUGGALO PAINTED BALLS BIATCH!!!!"

Now, to get that shit down here.

AT, Mr. Wally, y'all are from around that area, you're the point-men!!!



bentstrider
01.25.09 - 2:39 am

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And... SCENE!



Joe Borfo
01.25.09 - 9:26 am

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@Little Evil Eddy

Where are you getting your information from?

MISUSE of a tear gas weapon is a felony. Using one in self defense = USING ONE IN SELF DEFENSE.

In one of your earlier posts you compared pepper spray to expandable batons, and even added tasers/stun guns in there. Tasers and Stun Guns have their own little section in the penal code. So do striking weapons. Tear Gas weapons also have their own section. Don't get it all twisted.

PLEASE PICK UP A PENAL CODE & VEHICLE CODE AND READ IT.



el_spaniard
01.25.09 - 9:44 am

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All this talk of guns is making my FUN GUN HARD!!

YEAH!!!!!!

You guys know how to make my fun gun hard!!!!

Hear that Fluffa????



User1
01.25.09 - 11:49 am

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HELL YEAH!!!! i'm sorry, I get exited over weapons, I'd be down to roll with my telescopic baton, the only problem with that is the fact that in most states you need a specail license to carry/use one, usually police/ military personel will have em. how ever I am thinking of way to make machete forks, If I figure out a way to make, shit is on.



Trambo.45
01.26.09 - 1:44 am

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